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this may induce :some-controversy: but we can all agree his accent is :chefs-kiss:
I've commented elsewhere in this thread and am not looking to get dragged down into the quagmire of this, but also feel like it needs to be said that this idea that expressing opinion others deem not to be a harsh enough denouncement of something they don't like is by no sensible metric "support".
And certainly not any kind of material support, which seems to be the type that matters.
The idea that every comment on a niche leftist forum needs to be appropriately dismissive of and list every caveat to an international state's actions seems performative at best and wrecker shit at worst. This isn't about actions that actively hurt or impact real people in this community, it's about a very small number of account clutching their pearls that people don't adequately agree with them.
I disagree with loads of takes here, but appreciate that generally people take the time to explain their positions and consider the responses. Not to get all armchair psychology but I wonder if it stems from people feeling like they've found a refuge from being the extreme minority only to be confronted with something other than the perfectly comfortable agreement they hoped for. Maybe I'm just old and cynical, but plenty of real world organising and leftist orgs have assured me no such thing exists. You gather comrades, argue the details, and work together to get along and get shit done or else we might as well all be yelling to ourselves on Twitter.
Anyway, it's late and sorry if that was more of a ramble than it should have been, but this idea of 'support' being anything that digresses from an individual's personal opinion really fucking bugs me.
I've commented elsewhere in this thread and am not looking to get dragged down into the quagmire of this, but also feel like it needs to be said that this idea that expressing opinion others deem not to be a harsh enough denouncement of something they don't like is by no sensible metric "support".
And certainly not any kind of material support, which seems to be the type that matters.
The idea that every comment on a niche leftist forum needs to be appropriately dismissive of and list every caveat to an international state's actions seems performative at best and wrecker shit at worst. This isn't about actions that actively hurt or impact real people in this community, it's about a very small number of account clutching their pearls that people don't adequately agree with them.
I disagree with loads of takes here, but appreciate that generally people take the time to explain their positions and consider the responses. Not to get all armchair psychology but I wonder if it stems from people feeling like they've found a refuge from being the extreme minority only to be confronted with something other than the perfectly comfortable agreement they hoped for. Maybe I'm just old and cynical, but plenty of real world organising and leftist orgs have assured me no such thing exists. You gather comrades, argue the details, and work together to get along and get shit done or else we might as well all be yelling to ourselves on Twitter.
Anyway, it's late and sorry if that was more of a ramble than it should have been, but this idea of 'support' being anything that digresses from an individual's personal opinion really fucking bugs me.