honestly thingkin about how the field of ape language is riddled with fraud, and neither koko the gorilla nor nim chimpsky could communicate concepts more complicated than "give treat" without ample interpretation by a human interlocutor who didn't know sign language
I'm reminded of Wittgenstein saying if we could teach a lion to speak we couldn't understand it. And now we have google engineers and youtube influencers insisting that great chasm of context, social relations, brain matter can be crossed by simply providing a terminal or play mat.
honestly thingkin about how the field of ape language is riddled with fraud, and neither koko the gorilla nor nim chimpsky could communicate concepts more complicated than "give treat" without ample interpretation by a human interlocutor who didn't know sign language
THANK YOU! same thing with "Bunny the dog" and all the other dogs with voice mats.
I know some otherwise-fantastic scientists whose critical thinking skills go out the window when it comes to animals "talking".
I'm reminded of Wittgenstein saying if we could teach a lion to speak we couldn't understand it. And now we have google engineers and youtube influencers insisting that great chasm of context, social relations, brain matter can be crossed by simply providing a terminal or play mat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans
:sadness: shut up, Koko was bff with Robin Williams
I think it's very possible that she recognized and liked him. I'm just saying she couldn't talk in anything like human language.
Nim Chimpsky's longest sentence was, "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you."
spitting straight facts