I've been enjoying John Michael Godier's content recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldbkIydeXc
For the stuff about Von Neumann probes and the Fermi Paradox just do your own reading on what interests you there. Generally speaking it's just deep time stuff. Human civilization is about 12000 years old, anatomically modern humans emerged a few hundred thousand years ago? I think between 100,000 and 300,00 years ago. We don't really know when humans first started using language but it's assumed to be before they left Africa 60,000 years before now.
The dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, so 200x the length of time since the first humans. The Earth is 4 billion years old, or 60x longer than the time since the dinosaurs died, and the universe is 14 billion years old.
The Fermi Paradox, Von Neumann probe stuff is that a system of self-replicating spacecraft could colonize the entire galaxy in half a million years or so. Even if it took 10 million years, that's fairly short in terms of the history of life here. So like why hasn't it happened?
Also I'd recommend looking into the UAP stuff. It's objectively pretty weird. I wrote a comment about this the other week, but the US government basically has said that there are mechanical flying objects of unknown origin performing crazy maneuvers in the atmosphere. I'm not super inclined to take the US security state at face value, but it's also a weird thing to claim.
One hand, of course the US military is lying about UAP's to justify more funding.
On the other hand ... they wouldn't need to lie about anything to get more funding. And there's a lot of military personel insisting on these unexplainable air craft being real. There's reports of hundreds of encounters and near-misses going back decades. Obama and Clinton have basically said there's something inexplicable showing up during navy piloting exercises. So why? They could already get all the money in the world by going "China China China!!!" So why orchestrate such a massive and sprawling conspiracy?
I'm kinda gripped by the UAP thing because it doesn't seem like the usual lies our government and media come up with. It ... kinda seems real. But what the fuck is it then?
ON THE OTHER HAND ... if Americans are worrying about space aliens infiltrating the government then they're not worrying about capitalism being the actual cause of our problems. So maybe it really is just a way of muddling peoples material worldviews with pure hokum.
ON THE OTHERRRRR HAND .... again ... it would be the most successful fabricated conspiracy ever if that were the case. If George Bush fully orchestrated 9/11 from a bunker, that would require fewer people involved in a lifetime of lying and silence compared to the number of air force pilots and navy personnel and politicians and three-letter-agency contractors all insisting something is defying the laws of physics right off our coast every day for decades.
... I genuinely don't know what to think about it.
I don't think China or Russia or even the US has technology that could pull off what the UAP's are shown to be doing. Maybe China has found a way to scramble American sensors and radars and cameras to trick them into detecting something that isn't there .... but for several decades now? It just doesn't add up.
I just don't really get it for justifying funding. Like if you take the Nimitz encounter (which was like 15 years ago) there's no way you can look at that and think it's the Chinese, just based on the capability they're claiming.
I put this in my other comment, but it's like skipping the WMD fabrication and jumping to "we need to invade Iraq cause Saddam Hussein has Santa Claus held hostage"
If they're genuinely ET propes, they might not exist to make contact at all. They might only exist to monitor and/or test military capabilities. I don't think first encounter is going to involve little green men walking out of a saucer in DC, it's going to be a downed automated surveillance device from a civilization that might not even exist anymore.
I've been enjoying John Michael Godier's content recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldbkIydeXc
For the stuff about Von Neumann probes and the Fermi Paradox just do your own reading on what interests you there. Generally speaking it's just deep time stuff. Human civilization is about 12000 years old, anatomically modern humans emerged a few hundred thousand years ago? I think between 100,000 and 300,00 years ago. We don't really know when humans first started using language but it's assumed to be before they left Africa 60,000 years before now.
The dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, so 200x the length of time since the first humans. The Earth is 4 billion years old, or 60x longer than the time since the dinosaurs died, and the universe is 14 billion years old.
The Fermi Paradox, Von Neumann probe stuff is that a system of self-replicating spacecraft could colonize the entire galaxy in half a million years or so. Even if it took 10 million years, that's fairly short in terms of the history of life here. So like why hasn't it happened?
Also I'd recommend looking into the UAP stuff. It's objectively pretty weird. I wrote a comment about this the other week, but the US government basically has said that there are mechanical flying objects of unknown origin performing crazy maneuvers in the atmosphere. I'm not super inclined to take the US security state at face value, but it's also a weird thing to claim.
https://hexbear.net/post/200168/comment/2519901
One hand, of course the US military is lying about UAP's to justify more funding.
On the other hand ... they wouldn't need to lie about anything to get more funding. And there's a lot of military personel insisting on these unexplainable air craft being real. There's reports of hundreds of encounters and near-misses going back decades. Obama and Clinton have basically said there's something inexplicable showing up during navy piloting exercises. So why? They could already get all the money in the world by going "China China China!!!" So why orchestrate such a massive and sprawling conspiracy?
I'm kinda gripped by the UAP thing because it doesn't seem like the usual lies our government and media come up with. It ... kinda seems real. But what the fuck is it then?
ON THE OTHER HAND ... if Americans are worrying about space aliens infiltrating the government then they're not worrying about capitalism being the actual cause of our problems. So maybe it really is just a way of muddling peoples material worldviews with pure hokum.
ON THE OTHERRRRR HAND .... again ... it would be the most successful fabricated conspiracy ever if that were the case. If George Bush fully orchestrated 9/11 from a bunker, that would require fewer people involved in a lifetime of lying and silence compared to the number of air force pilots and navy personnel and politicians and three-letter-agency contractors all insisting something is defying the laws of physics right off our coast every day for decades.
... I genuinely don't know what to think about it.
I don't think China or Russia or even the US has technology that could pull off what the UAP's are shown to be doing. Maybe China has found a way to scramble American sensors and radars and cameras to trick them into detecting something that isn't there .... but for several decades now? It just doesn't add up.
There's no obvious answer to this.
i KNOW. It kinda makes me insane.
I just don't really get it for justifying funding. Like if you take the Nimitz encounter (which was like 15 years ago) there's no way you can look at that and think it's the Chinese, just based on the capability they're claiming.
I put this in my other comment, but it's like skipping the WMD fabrication and jumping to "we need to invade Iraq cause Saddam Hussein has Santa Claus held hostage"
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If they're genuinely ET propes, they might not exist to make contact at all. They might only exist to monitor and/or test military capabilities. I don't think first encounter is going to involve little green men walking out of a saucer in DC, it's going to be a downed automated surveillance device from a civilization that might not even exist anymore.
Assuming these things are real at all...