I've seen a lot of stupid fucking discourse lately about righties insisting the US is a 'constitutional republic', as if that phrase means anything, and lib clapbacks about how its an democratic republic, with indirect democracy. And, like, obviously its all a meaningless debate about word definitions, since regardless of anything else the US is, technically speaking, fucked.

By is this push just wholly started by right-wingers to try to 'debunk' people wanting to get rid of the electoral college? The whole debate just seems pointless to me, as I really don't see why it would matter either way. But the way the 'debate' surged up seemingly out of nowhere makes me think its propaganda of some type, but I don't really even know what its propaganda for.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah this isn't that recent. It's been around for decades. One of my teachers in elementary school even told us about it.

    It does a few things, it makes liberal and conservative look like the extent of all possible ideology. It makes Republicans and Democrats look more opposed than they actually are. It makes Republicans seem more correct in their policies, since they algin with the values of America that supposedly already exist. Whereas Democrats want to change the core society of how America operates. It also muddies the water by proposing that societies only operate on either a solid foundation of laws that must be enforced always, or societies are based on the whims of constantly angry mobs who have no clue what they're doing. You either have laws or complete direct democracy on everything. They also like to cite that one quote from Ben Franklin about how he wanted a republic, but you can find an equal amount of quotes from the founders talking about democracy.

    It's all gibberish. Most countries in Earth are republics with some level of democratic input. Republic is a vague term that almost always just means "not a monarchy nor a dictatorship."

    • Castor_Troy [comrade/them,he/him]
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      2 years ago

      but you can find an equal amount of quotes from the founders talking about democracy.

      The Declaration of Independence says:

      That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.