Seems like a wild coincidence no?

  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    Maybe I'm wildly cynical, but it just seems like a LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME distraction from the actual systemic issues, which might not be effective at siphoning off all disaffected people, but which is effective at siphoning off a significant enough fraction of disaffected people to be useful.

  • RangeFourHarry [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    It seems like a coincidence because the grifter with the ‘alien’ bodies saw UAPs were in the news again and wanted to make a buck. The bodies are fake, and they’re back because aliens are back in the news

    • BigHaas [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      I'm sure the bodies are fake but they're such high quality fakes we have to discuss who's funding it and how and why it was done no? Like this is crazy https://strangeuniver.se/posts/nazca-mummies-highlights-from-mexicos-second-congressional-hearing

  • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Sounds like it makes for a good scifi plot. I wonder if there's any leftist scifi that depicts a secret history of the Cold War where the capitalist and communist factions compete to reverse engineer alien tech they start finding at the dawn of the atomic age? Sounds like a cool concept for a story or series of books.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    US Navy announces this shit every time they need to distract people. Con artists follow the money. People are paying attention to alien claims when the navy talks about it, so con artists talk about aliens to bilk rubes out of money.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    I would like to think, in an ideal world, Musk uses his "Starlink" to be the sucessor to Arecibo and build an Earth sized high resolution radio telescope to send and recieve communications from long distances. Then we would get serious about actually linking up with Aliens in a public way. An age of tech sharing and cooperarion. The end to manufactured scarcity and evolve as a spiecies.

    Then I come back to defaulting that the absolute worst of crap-it-all-ism and imperalism is the norm and see it as a cynical ploy to fund a Death Star space race to fear monger about fictional space weapons by our economic competitors and to gatekeep by force any other nation from expanding in space and doing actual cool evolutionary society advancing stuff.

  • BigHaas [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Okay y'all I get the Navy will happily mislead us. I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on the Peruvian mummies. https://strangeuniver.se/posts/nazca-mummies-highlights-from-mexicos-second-congressional-hearing

    Like all that is wild as fuck and I don't really believe it but also we've got 20 respected South American scientists signing off on this report. It's all a scam to distract us? Who is funding it? It's hella elaborate.

    • GinAndJuche
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      4 months ago

      I don’t think they’ll be “respected” for long if they keep attaching themselves to crank shit.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      So first off, anytime they say "Here's a list of scientists who signed off on this, you should be incredibly skeptical. Who are these scientists? Are they biologists? Geneticists? Or are they random Meteorologists and "Political Scientists?" Are they even scientists at all? Or are they just random people the person making this claim is pretending are scientists in order to get prestige and attention? Hell, do they even exist at all? They could've just lied about that entirely. If they do exist, and they are actual scientists in a relevant scientific field, what does "signing off" actually mean? What did they sign? Did they actually sign anything at all? These sorts of con artists love to include a scientist's name on their bullshit for clout, without ever actually informing the scientist in question. Kind of hard to imagine that the scientist is actually signing off on something they don't even know about.

      It's not some "top down" thing, most likely this is a con artist who figured out they can make a bunch of money selling "exclusive rights" to "study" their bullshit, and they've smoothed talked the right people into giving them a congressional hearing. That doesn't mean the Mexican government actually believes this 100%, just that someone there organised this in an attempt to legitimise these claims.

      Politicians aren't experts on aliens. They wouldn't actually know anything more than a layperson about alien biology. They can be fooled by a con artist same as anyone else. Or they might not be fooled, they might see dollar signs and decide to get in on the grift, trading political clout and attention for money.