Uh... no? The point of contention is literally "does this number include COVID deaths" and my quotation settles that. They are included. So when AOC added that number to the official covid deaths.... every single covid death was double counted. That's how they got 2 million+.
You just spent a lot of words not contesting that point. The actual point.
Didn’t read this thread correctly at all, and didn’t realize that the 2 mil figure talking point had been from people adding to excess deaths (which is exactly what you detailed)
I think the jimmy dore/crank website comment just made me immediately jump to conclusions (And I’m pedantic and still think your quote isn’t useful)
OP gives a clear and accurate definition of excess deaths
thats excess deaths, unaccounted for deaths that are abnormal compared to the rate we’d expect given past years data, (data from years that had no covid)
Then they somehow jumped to “meaning this is in addition to the confirmed covid deaths” and my brain was just :cat-vibing:
"If you're serious" :bern-disgust:
Uh... no? The point of contention is literally "does this number include COVID deaths" and my quotation settles that. They are included. So when AOC added that number to the official covid deaths.... every single covid death was double counted. That's how they got 2 million+.
You just spent a lot of words not contesting that point. The actual point.
These are for you: :PIGPOOPBALLS: :downbear:
Honestly deserve that
Didn’t read this thread correctly at all, and didn’t realize that the 2 mil figure talking point had been from people adding to excess deaths (which is exactly what you detailed)
I think the jimmy dore/crank website comment just made me immediately jump to conclusions (And I’m pedantic and still think your quote isn’t useful)
OP gives a clear and accurate definition of excess deaths
Then they somehow jumped to “meaning this is in addition to the confirmed covid deaths” and my brain was just :cat-vibing:
Thats what my brain did too, my bad
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