Researchwise, it can be as effective as other disciplinary choices in preventing behaviour but has a higher chance of trauma, hatred of parents etc. So there's no real reason to keep it in a parents toolbox. Ethically, no. Kids are still people, just inexperienced and vulnerable and largely unable to care for themselves. If you consider other people who fill that category, we don't want to build a society where we treat those people like that.
Reflecting on the circumstances where corporal punishment was meted out to me and other kids I knew, it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you'd want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you’d want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid
This, so much this- either that, or they'd just be taking out their frustrations from life on their kids. A lot of people do that.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
Marx's call for the abolition of the bourgeois family comes to mind. Children all too often are still treated as property, and exploited, abused, and controlled as such, even in the west.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community.
I wish. I remember reading the manifesto and then looking further into the communist views on family, and I feel like communism clicked so hard so fast for me, because it reflected the views I already had, which helped prune my defeatism from existing in an uncaring world into wishing to fight for what the world can be, as proven by AES countries.
Researchwise, it can be as effective as other disciplinary choices in preventing behaviour but has a higher chance of trauma, hatred of parents etc. So there's no real reason to keep it in a parents toolbox. Ethically, no. Kids are still people, just inexperienced and vulnerable and largely unable to care for themselves. If you consider other people who fill that category, we don't want to build a society where we treat those people like that.
Reflecting on the circumstances where corporal punishment was meted out to me and other kids I knew, it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you'd want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
This, so much this- either that, or they'd just be taking out their frustrations from life on their kids. A lot of people do that.
Marx's call for the abolition of the bourgeois family comes to mind. Children all too often are still treated as property, and exploited, abused, and controlled as such, even in the west.
Unfortunately, I feel like this is one of those things that would change quite slowly post-revolution
I wish. I remember reading the manifesto and then looking further into the communist views on family, and I feel like communism clicked so hard so fast for me, because it reflected the views I already had, which helped prune my defeatism from existing in an uncaring world into wishing to fight for what the world can be, as proven by AES countries.