• 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    Well at least they have stopped saying all options are on the table.

    Wonder if Russia would even engage with us again

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Russia and China have for the last 15 years stupidly thought that the West would cooperate with them to prosper together.

          I don't think either country's leaders have believed that in the last decade. But back in the 90s, yeah. Chinese leadership - particularly the wing of the party lead by Bo Xilai - were convinced they would become the next Japan. The Russians, under Yeltsin, assumed they would be incorporated into the larger EU sphere just like Estonia and Poland and Eastern Germany.

          But by the 2010s? No. It was abundantly clear to everyone that the US was in this game to divide and conquer. You could either be a collection of mismanaged micro-states like in Central America or the Saudi peninsula. Or you could be an ammo dumping ground, like in Afghanistan or Iraq.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm sure they'll engage with the next guy, particularly if its a DeSantis style Conservative.

      Republicans want to pivot to Asia and do Ukraine-tier shit to the Pacific Rim. They're generally sympathetic towards the white nationalists in Eastern Europe. They mostly consider the Poland/Hungary/Ukraine a place to hook up with :epstein: grade girlfriends. They hate the UN and other Western European states for being full of icky socialists. And Russians are fucking loaded, so you know there's money in lobbying and triangulating business deals on their behalf. Same as the Saudis or the Turks.

      I think we should expect yet another Russian Reset under the next President, just like we had under the last four.