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  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    No you agree that fascists exist within Ukraine. Fascists exist within every nation, that’s not even under dispute. You don’t believe Ukraine is fascist state when it clearly is dominated by fascists backed by imperialists (who work hand-in-hand, as seen with Al Qaeda, ISIS, contras, Pinochet, the ROC, etc.)

    The imperialist finance capitalists (US, UK, NATO) and the fascist militaries. That’s it. There are no other factions. Both work together, both need to be destroyed.

    I can’t believe you can’t recognize this after a cursory glance over the last decade’s history. Color revolution -> fascist paramilitaries killing ethnic minorities -> fascist paramilitaries gaining control of the government and absorbing themselves into it -> continued shelling of Donbas in breach of ceasefires -> destruction of all soviet legacy and glorifying Bandera

    They could not possibly be more fascist than they are. How can you not recognize a fascist state?

    • SlashThat [any]
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      2 years ago

      The funny thing is I don't even disagree with most of the things you're saying. Just some of your conclusions. But have you ever looked at what fascist Italy and Spain and Germany looked like? By your definition the Weimar Republic was also fascist. And once you start there the word uses its meaning pretty quickly.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I’m not really sure what your point is even bring that up, how is the Weimar Germany comparable to Maidan Ukraine? Did Weimar Germany have thousands of Nazi officials installed all throughout the government and control of the military, intelligence and executive branches? No, but Nazi Germany did.

        Maidan Ukraine is much like Nazi Germany. Pre-Maidan Ukraine was more comparable to Weimar Germany.

        • SlashThat [any]
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          2 years ago

          Yes, Weimar had a pretty widespread infiltration of the judicial system by Nazi sympathisers and monarchists. And yes they had a militia, the SA they're pretty famous actually, that was tolerated by the government. Of course there were Nazis throughout the government they were a party that won a few elections.

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Not “a militia”. THE military. Fascists in Ukraine control THE military, police and national guard