• zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    a paranoid person being obviously paranoid and me pointing it out isn't "paranoia jacketing"

    • Egon [they/them]
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      4 months ago

      I disagree that you can call a person "paranoid" for being defensive online. You should not throw those terms around Willy nilly.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        How about making up conspiracies of other users editing their comments to confuse and attack you but being hackers in the code who can hide their edits? Saying stuff like “I know it’s you you did this before” to people accusing them of nonsense? That qualify?

        • Egon [they/them]
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          4 months ago

          No, that's just being very defensive. We shouldn't treat mental diagnosis as insults and we should not insinuate that because someone is weird online that there's something psychiatrically wrong with them

          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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            4 months ago

            It’s not defensive to flatly deny evident reality in front of their face. They know how edits look, they are a mod and long time site user. Why are they going around accusing people of editing who don’t have edit symbols? Do they think the site is lying to them and in on the conspiracy?

            How am I the one “jacketing” and not them? They are the ones accusing people of absurd things and dramabaiting

            • Egon [they/them]
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              4 months ago

              I am not saying that they are not jacketing, I have not spoken about the quality of their behaviour at all. I agree with you that they're being shitty, I just don't think it's cool to do what you did in response.
              I don't know why they're being weird about edits that did not happen. I just know that that doesn't warrant implying they're mentally ill

              • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                4 months ago

                When someone is plainly disconnected from evidence and reality and digging into a “it’s not me it’s literally everyone else gaslighting me and attacking me and persecuting me” mentality there’s really not much other explanation

                • Egon [they/them]
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                  4 months ago

                  Sure, whatever. I still do not think that justifies doing as you did, which is why I wrote the response that I did.

                  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                    4 months ago

                    I’ll be real, I just don’t like Pluto and took the opportunity of them being a fucking weirdo to dunk on them. It makes a lot of sense why he’s always complaining about the “Nazbols” taking over hexbear and taking over his org and taking over the internet, I will just say that much

                    • GinAndJucheM
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                      4 months ago

                      The only issue was the ableism (using mental illness as a dunk or insult is ableism). I wish we had a word for paranoid that didn’t have those implications but we don’t.

                      • Egon [they/them]
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                        4 months ago

                        I was the one to bring up "paranoid" initially, because I don't know what else to call it but "paranoia-jacketing", when you say someone thinks they're being gangstalked.

                        • GinAndJucheM
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                          4 months ago

                          Agreed, it’s hard with English not having a proper alternative word.

                        • GinAndJucheM
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                          4 months ago

                          https://hexbear.net/comment/4702153

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                          Sure you didn’t bud. I count two.

                          Either way, I wasn’t the one who originally removed the comments, I simply agree with the removal. The ableism on this site really should be the next great purge. If only we had a TC69 figure to spearhead it.

                          Have a nice day Z poster

                          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                            4 months ago

                            that was in response to them saying it, i was quoting them. I guess I did say the word technically, but I didn't bring it up

                            it's zed proclaimer, don't know who this "z poster" is but its just an smear word like "tankie" or "nazbol"

                            • GinAndJucheM
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                              4 months ago

                              I was wrong, went ahead and reapproved them because, in my personal understanding, fault would lie with the first to introduce the term. I’ve been a bit on edge with all the ableism lately and jumped the gun after checking the mod log and seeing “it still going”. Apologies.

                    • Egon [they/them]
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                      4 months ago

                      Yeah and I don't mind that you dunked I think it was well deserved. I just dislike the ableism inherent in saying "oh I bet you're being gangstalked too huh". I think it's shitty to use signs of mental diagnosis as dunks.