r/robbersgettingfucked - [NSFW] Deli Owner Defends Himself Against Robber
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I'm currently at home and thus forced to learn about all the latest right media trends on Fox which plays all day.

In short, the story is that the girlfriend of the victim, Austin Simon, had a declined transaction. She went and got her boyfriend for whatever reason, he had some kind of confrontation with the man at the counter, Jose Alba, and Simon was eventually stabbed to death.

I've seen this mostly covered by conservative outlets and "JusticePorn" type social media, and they're all basically supporting the Alba. Also including Eric Adams, who has criticized the decision to charge the guy with murder - NYT.

I linked the most complete video I could find of the incident. To me, it looks like Alba is shoved once by Simon pretty hard, and he then yells at him for a bit before pulling him up from the chair he was shoved into and looks like he's going to march him out in front of the counter, which is the point at which Alba grabs the knife, whips around, and stabs him: at least 5 times according to reports and you can see a stab to the neck in the video.

Additionally, from the NYT article, according to Alba, Simon "had demanded that he 'come apologize to the girl,'" which I think tracks with leading him out from behind the counter maybe. Simon also did not have a weapon.

To me, this seems like a disproportionate response, and I can see why he would be charged, but I wanted to know other's thoughts. I feel like you shouldn't be able to kill people over relatively minor altercations when your life isn't immediately threatened but that's just me lol.

  • forcequit [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    going only from the linked video, seemed pretty fair play? Dude was passive up til the point he was getting marched out of there when he grabbed the knife. Didn't deserve to die, but definitely overstepped the uh bounds.

    Sucks, but like, dont fuck with retail workers? Idk not an adjudicator situation sucks ETAH?

    Thinking further idk about local laws around weapons and workplaces but i dont think that'd fly where I am

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Possible the cashier has been almost hurt/killed before as well with his job, it's a dangerous fucking job, so PTSDing and grabbing a knife isn't even that surprising if that was the case

      • forcequit [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I could be paranoid/litigious/devils-advocate-y here but I could see grounds for manslaughter if the knife wouldn't have otherwise been reasonably required to be there. Like, for a retail employee particularly there's safety knives/box cutters that were they the weapon used here may not have had such lethal effect.