I'm currently at home and thus forced to learn about all the latest right media trends on Fox which plays all day.

In short, the story is that the girlfriend of the victim, Austin Simon, had a declined transaction. She went and got her boyfriend for whatever reason, he had some kind of confrontation with the man at the counter, Jose Alba, and Simon was eventually stabbed to death.

I've seen this mostly covered by conservative outlets and "JusticePorn" type social media, and they're all basically supporting the Alba. Also including Eric Adams, who has criticized the decision to charge the guy with murder - NYT.

I linked the most complete video I could find of the incident. To me, it looks like Alba is shoved once by Simon pretty hard, and he then yells at him for a bit before pulling him up from the chair he was shoved into and looks like he's going to march him out in front of the counter, which is the point at which Alba grabs the knife, whips around, and stabs him: at least 5 times according to reports and you can see a stab to the neck in the video.

Additionally, from the NYT article, according to Alba, Simon "had demanded that he 'come apologize to the girl,'" which I think tracks with leading him out from behind the counter maybe. Simon also did not have a weapon.

To me, this seems like a disproportionate response, and I can see why he would be charged, but I wanted to know other's thoughts. I feel like you shouldn't be able to kill people over relatively minor altercations when your life isn't immediately threatened but that's just me lol.

  • IAMOBSCENE [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    In an ideal world, neither party was in this situation. Sure, things could have been much better, the clerk is an older guy though and getting assaulted and kidnapped.

    There were a million moments that led up to that guy getting stabbed and that guy stabbing him, and it still happened. In my mind at least, it was essentially inevitable that this guy would have a deadly altercation at some point with someone (in this shit ass country). Maybe an unstoppable dickhead met an immovable asshole, it's a relatively short clip with no audio, but one party definitely started the violence and had a massive physical one up. If it were an old guy trying to assault a younger, bigger cashier, this probably never would've escalated, but in this specific situation I think the cashier isn't liable. I'm pretty sure he didn't want to stab someone to death, and there's a good chance he didn't have to, but the deceased didn't give him the time or space to know that. This wasn't someone running away who got shot in the back, he was invading and escalating until he got stabbed.