Do you do this in real life as well? “Disregard my tantrum, I’m ND. Treat me like a baby, because I can’t take basic responsibility for my own actions”?
Mental health is not your fault, but it is your responsibility. Sort yourself out, log off, touch grass.
I dunno man, people don't have the same abilities; we are not all made equal. That literally is the whole point of the critique of ableism as I understand it. The world we live in expects people to take responsibility for things they literally cannot do anything about & then says that because they can't they must therefore not be really human, or at the very least their existence is an active detriment to society & they need to be excluded on that basis.
I grant that we're not gonna fix that on a website; but I think that to some extent this is the crux of what OP is getting at. That even though Hexbear as a community proclaims inclusion, it itself still cannot overcome the fundamental contradictions of the Capitalist social order. I suppose the mistake is in assuming that it could though.
op is nothing of substance and doesn't get to act treat others like this. You may share a space but that doesn't mean you get to smear shit on the walls and not do anything to manage it
Lady, you know what you do with people who can't help but shit themselves? You show them how to bathe. You keep them away from the shit. You dont let them play in it.
If you literally cannot help but type paragraphs of harmful shit, maybe you shouldnt be at the computer? I need to step away from this one sorry. I get what you're saying, but there's ways of dealing with it and then theres externalising it to whatever the heck op is
To take your analogy of the classroom: When one of the ND kids gets in a fight or yells at another child, theyre separated and we help them calm down, and talk them thru what happened - like what you do with any child. This is because they arent animals acting unknowingly, but people. And they are then given the tools to handle emotional distress. Like you do with all children.
Well my personal experience with that involved being pinned to the floor against my will & again, being put in confinement for not doing exactly as I was told when I was told to do it, or for speaking out when I thought that demands being made of me were unfair. To go back to the floor thing, shoving my face into the corner where said kid did that was something that my teachers would expressly taunt me with because they knew it made me feel sick.
So obviously while a nominal component of "Therapy" was present (in that they brought in a guy they said was a therapist to talk about said emotional management once every week or two), making sure we did as told was more the point of it.
I guess the only answer I can give you is that I've personally met enough people that are just fucked up enough, and have no actual material way of escaping that other than by performing the bootstrap miracle that I cannot agree with you that it makes sense to hold everyone equally accountable for their actions.
I dunno man, people don't have the same abilities; we are not all made equal. That literally is the whole point of the critique of ableism as I understand it. The world we live in expects people to take responsibility for things they literally cannot do anything about & then says that because they can't they must therefore not be really human, or at the very least their existence is an active detriment to society & they need to be excluded on that basis.
I grant that we're not gonna fix that on a website; but I think that to some extent this is the crux of what OP is getting at. That even though Hexbear as a community proclaims inclusion, it itself still cannot overcome the fundamental contradictions of the Capitalist social order. I suppose the mistake is in assuming that it could though.
IDK.
op is nothing of substance and doesn't get to
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Lady, you know what you do with people who can't help but shit themselves? You show them how to bathe. You keep them away from the shit. You dont let them play in it.
If you literally cannot help but type paragraphs of harmful shit, maybe you shouldnt be at the computer? I need to step away from this one sorry. I get what you're saying, but there's ways of dealing with it and then theres externalising it to whatever the heck op is
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likewise, thank you for expounding on it.
Probably true, tbh.
log off/touch grass is never not a good idea
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Well my personal experience with that involved being pinned to the floor against my will & again, being put in confinement for not doing exactly as I was told when I was told to do it, or for speaking out when I thought that demands being made of me were unfair. To go back to the floor thing, shoving my face into the corner where said kid did that was something that my teachers would expressly taunt me with because they knew it made me feel sick.
So obviously while a nominal component of "Therapy" was present (in that they brought in a guy they said was a therapist to talk about said emotional management once every week or two), making sure we did as told was more the point of it.
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I guess the only answer I can give you is that I've personally met enough people that are just fucked up enough, and have no actual material way of escaping that other than by performing the bootstrap miracle that I cannot agree with you that it makes sense to hold everyone equally accountable for their actions.
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I suppose I have to conclude, as I already have stated previously, that this is not a problem that will be solved on Hexbear.net .
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