Many people are saying it folks: 4 degrees of warming by the end of the century (even as soon as 2070s) is a real possibility. How much longer do you think the :lmayo: countries in the north can hang on under these conditions?
Many people are saying it folks: 4 degrees of warming by the end of the century (even as soon as 2070s) is a real possibility. How much longer do you think the :lmayo: countries in the north can hang on under these conditions?
Depends what you mean by "collapse". The USA might not live out the decade.
New Zealand might be able to struggle on under a climate autarky until 2080 or so, whenever China's agriculture finally fails and the trade that hasn't already been stopped by the lack of viable large scale sea transport ends.
But "The West" as some kind of coherent entity, even if it's lost its global hegemony? Sometime between 2045 and 2060.