they keep talking as though we fundamentally want the same things but have different views on how to achieve it. no, i want the amerikkkan state and its allies wiped from the face of the earth and every one of its politicians, media cheerleaders, military brass, etc shot, even the ones who are ok with me being trans! i don't want a "lesser evil". i want the people to assert themselves on the world historical stage and drag you and everyone like you from your comfortable homes. you are the modern incarnation of the Nazis, you are actively carrying out the worst atrocity i have seen in my life, and yet you think you can convince me to do anything for you, let alone not actively work for your overthrow and execution???

  • D61 [any]
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    9 months ago

    A long time ago... back in the internet new atheist days, or whatever its called... I was watching YT videos of Matt Dillahunty of the Atheist Community of Austin (last I heard the org was full of chuds... dont @ me) talking about getting into conversations, arguments, debates with Christians trying to "change his mind".

    At some point he started responding to their rhetoric with a question, "What convinced YOU to be a Christian?"

    The point of the question being, 99% of the arguments are purely rhetorical, they are not real arguments, they only exist to try to score points or back somebody into a "logical" corner where a person would have to admit that logically and rhetorically the Christian was correct.

    The "less of two evils" argument is not a real argument. No lib who is talking, debating, arguing with you thinks they are the "lesser of two evils". They think they are correct and are trying to find some way to get you to admit that (1) you have no valid rhetorical counter point, (2) change your opinion and/or actions because you didn't have a valid rhetorical counter point, and (3) reinforce their own position/opinion by seeing that there was no valid rhetorical counter point to their arguments.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah this is something a lot of people gotta understand. Debates are so people can either reinforce their own beliefs to themselves or look cool to people who already share their beliefs.