I don't think torture has any place in leftism, not to say that people can't have the urge for revenge or torture especially on people who have done them wrong but the whole goal is to set up a society that can actually do justice so that people can heal from harm and those fantasies of violence can be worked through rather than acted on.
as doctrine, i agree. and nothing you say is wrong. but again, in cases of extreme disempowerment, it is valid on a personal level, and i don't think anyone should be stopped from it.
I'm going into this assuming that you are just someone angry at the world and that's what led you to leftism but thats how you'll burn out. You need to center love and compassion for your fellow human as your basis of leftism. Not anger, revenge, or catharsis. Torture has no place in leftism, period. These things may happen but we can understand why they happen without condoning them, especially preemptively.
Fair, but we've all been new in a space we think thinks like us and overstepped. I don't want to ostracize her just because they misunderstand the cause.
They're asking for guides to build guns, advocating for torture, and asking for access to private chats with existing users all before their account is even a day old. As c/shittywallpaper pointed out, even their username (primrose path speedrun) is suggesting that communism is doomed to fail or lead to terrible things.
revenge as a policy is bad, but in the personal, when trauma comes from disempowerment, it's valid and healing.
I don't think torture has any place in leftism, not to say that people can't have the urge for revenge or torture especially on people who have done them wrong but the whole goal is to set up a society that can actually do justice so that people can heal from harm and those fantasies of violence can be worked through rather than acted on.
as doctrine, i agree. and nothing you say is wrong. but again, in cases of extreme disempowerment, it is valid on a personal level, and i don't think anyone should be stopped from it.
I'm going into this assuming that you are just someone angry at the world and that's what led you to leftism but thats how you'll burn out. You need to center love and compassion for your fellow human as your basis of leftism. Not anger, revenge, or catharsis. Torture has no place in leftism, period. These things may happen but we can understand why they happen without condoning them, especially preemptively.
safer to assume they're a right wing troll or fed based on their posting history in the past twenty hours their account has existed
Fair, but we've all been new in a space we think thinks like us and overstepped. I don't want to ostracize her just because they misunderstand the cause.
They're asking for guides to build guns, advocating for torture, and asking for access to private chats with existing users all before their account is even a day old. As c/shittywallpaper pointed out, even their username (primrose path speedrun) is suggesting that communism is doomed to fail or lead to terrible things.
I did not look into their posting history. My statements still stand for anyone reading these comments and agreeing with what they said.
Yeah, I don’t think any one of the comments would be suspicious on their own. It’s all of them in combination.
i got mine, and it was good. empowering. helpful. now i want everyone else to get theirs, if the target is acceptable.
again, this isn't about leftism, it's about healing. it should and must be personal to be any more than what you say, but there is a place for it.
It is not fucking valid you fedposting loser. It is complete anathema to socialism and is not justice, just cruelty that provides no material benefit.
Torture is reactionary. Full stop.