*In terms of privacy, customisation, camera quality, and battery time.

For the longest time I have only used either iPhone or Samsung. I plan on switching to Android for the next phone I get, but I find that Samsung phones are often too big for me and put too much energy on camera quality (I don’t take many photos). I have started to look into brands such as Nokia and Motorola, and I would like to know what you guys think of them. Additionally, do you suggest any other phone brands aside from them? My biggest priorities are privacy and long battery time. Bonus if the phone can run LineageOS (I have excluded Graphene as they are only compatible with Pixel phones).

Thank you for any answers. Cheers!

  • headroom@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I don't get people claiming stock iPhone is private. We literally have very little idea. It's a closed system. It's private if you take Apple's word but all the other manufacturers also have similar claims. Why trust Apple and not them?

    On top of that you end up locked into their ecosystem, unable to use most FOSS applications or have cut down versions of them because daddy Apple didn't like some features.

  • viking@infosec.pub
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    6 months ago

    OnePlus.

    I'd never buy Samsung again, they are full of bloat and make it excessively hard to unlock the bootloader and get root access or install an alternative OS.

  • MrSoup@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    The downside of Google Pixels is that they don't have jack connector and sd slot.

    But I accepted the deal just to use GrapheneOS (I bought one used on ebay). Sometimes the battery lasts 3 days without being recharged.

    People at GrapheneOS should really focus on some brand that cares about users on the hardware side.

      • MrSoup@lemmy.zip
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        6 months ago

        6a. Though I don't use the phone that much, most of the battery is drained by Telegram FOSS.

        Here are two old screenshots

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  • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Don't exclude Pixel phones so quickly. They are one of the most versatile for custom ROMs, and they check all of your checkboxes. I love my CalxyOS Pixel 6.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    xiaomi has awesome hardware, audio jack, sd slot, even ir blaster.

    their privacy policy is bad, but a lot of them have official lineageos (and microg-patched lineage) and it works really really well.

  • communism@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Why exclude GrapheneOS? It's a really good mobile OS, and the creator has given his reasons for only supporting Pixels.

    • MrSoup@lemmy.zip
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      6 months ago

      You can't just recommend Pinephone.
      It is at best an half baked device. Phone calls are not that good and I had to manually enable VoLTE and flashed a custom firmware on the modem.

  • penquin@lemmy.kde.social
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    6 months ago

    I just got a OnePlus 12 and this phone is fantastic. Bootloader is unlocked and you can do whatever you want. Battery is amazing. Charger is insane. Camera is more than decent. Price is very reasonable for what it offers.

  • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    If privacy is important, a custom ROM is highly recommended or rather mandatory. Most brands have locked boot loader which can't be unlocked immediately without voiding warranty. Some let you to using some bs proprietary software but only after few months. That was the only reason I had to resort to getting a pixel. So look into all the brands available to you and check their policy on custom rooms before looking into the mobile themselves.

      • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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        6 months ago

        If you don't remove play service and shit without being unable to use payment apps and other shut, it's not gonna work for majority. Those are worst offenders that have to be removed for privacy.

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I'm using a SHIFT6mq with LineageOS. It's similar to the Fairphone (expensive, but repairable, sustainable, good Custom ROM support), but it's got a few different design decisions and much higher build quality compared to the FP3 I had before.

  • scoobford@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    The hardware is wholly unremarkable, but the pixel line supports Graphene. Custom Roms are a necessity if you care about privacy even a little bit, but there are other options.

    Unfortunately in many places, illegal searches are the rule, not the exception and as such security is almost as critical. If you need security AND privacy there is simply no substitute.

    Motorola hardware looks kinda nice though...

  • toastal@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Not under your specs but the Sony Xperia line offers a headphone jack + microSD, can be unlocked, & has flagship specs (1 & 5). The 5 & 10 models are also smaller devices that actually fit in one hand too. This characteristic combo does not come in the other models folks are suggesting. Older models have LineageOS for microG support if you want an ungoogled phone (but beware the stock camera app is trash).

    • spicy pancake@lemmy.zip
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      6 months ago

      i loved my XZ2 Compact SO MUCH and then all the carriers in my country simultaneously dropped voice calling support for it. i'm still so salty