eg “not all men” weirdos

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Edit: to further clarify the example above since it set off some brainworms, this can be seen when people respond to discussions about patriarchy and the way it shapes toxic masculinity with defensive “not all men” statements.

When we discuss systems, we are aware that not everyone who has privilege within them internalizes it the same way.

Men are not somehow evil. Masculinity is not somehow evil. Feminism is about liberation of everyone from patriarchy. The issue is that you can wind up needing to “protect” or cater to very fragile expectations of individuals and that can sometimes wind up recentering discussion on purely men and their feelings about patriarchy.

That is an important aspect of the discussion, but it cannot be the only one. Given that one of the patriarchal behaviors that many men are taught is to talk over anyone who is not a man, space must be intentionally created for others.

Anyway, this would be better covered in a dedicated effort post on feminism and positive masculinity.

This is however a meme featuring Josie and the pussy cats with a comments section that proves the meme is accurate lol

  • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    No one brought up nationality and I don’t “loathe what I am and everyone around me”. What are you talking about?

    Do you organize?

      • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I don’t have much in common with most people of my nationality either. If these aren’t practical concerns about work that you’ve actually had to do, then I’m not really interested either way

          • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            As you said

            You’re putting words in my mouth, straight up. Don’t ever do that if I’m going to argue in good faith.

            :data-laughing:

            • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah I don’t have much in common with most people of my nationality either.

              Fine. We'll agree you said this though?

              I'm sorry, but you're unaware with how much the people you grow up around affect you.

              • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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                2 years ago
                1. The American nationality is so broad that, no, it does not just mean “the shared culture of the people I grew up around”
                2. I didn’t particularly jive in that culture even if I’m fluent in it
                3. I don’t only work with Americans
                4. The basis of my organizing relationships is typically about work or some form of shared media consumption. Not nationality
                • Ideology [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  Every job I've ever worked, most of the white people are in management roles and 90% of everyone else is POC.

          • Kuori [she/her]
            ·
            2 years ago

            calling someone who uses they/them pronouns a boy

            absolutely fuck off into the sun with that shit

      • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I’m talking about ignoring things like “whiteness“

        :bruh: that is impossible in the imperial core, especially Amerika and Canada. Both of those were founded on white supremacy and are still functioning as racial apartheid states.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        do you organize?

        no answer

        i think we all know what that means :shrug-outta-hecks: