Sure, but at the same time one can easily say that people shut down just about any critique of China here as sectarian. Being a leftist who's ideology is not aligned with China sure as heck is gonna seem "sectarian" here. I've been on both sides of this argument too many times, and know why everyone is defensive, but that's why I'm saying its unproductive. It always becomes a memorandum on breadtube and then China. It becomes a conversation ender and a whole lot of bad faith arguing. If any time BE is brought up it becomes a fight over if you can criticize china or if its just bad criticism and then who decides what is bad criticism, then we really are a sectarian mess. We allow posting about people who are sectarian, but sectarian swipes at one another HERE, including stuff not on the topic of the post is just going to get bad fast.

I can totally see why the other poste would feel like everyone was being super hostile. I get being woried about "ultra" becoming a thought terminating cliché, because it has become that in quite a lot of places including here. Heck I've seen people here say that any MLM is an ultra and because they dont approve of the current PRC they are fair targets for sectarianism, and when the Naxalites and NPA are mentioned in response they swore they are not MLMs "because MLMs are ultras and bad" essentially, but they know those groups are on the whole cool. Like it does become a self repeating "criticism of china means lib or ultra, and ___ are ultras so they are anti-china/___ are anti-china thus must be ultras" and that becomes the analysis. This was just discussed in another thread, by those standards the NPA in the Philippines should not be defended here and posting something the CPP said at all must be met with complaints about their stance on china. Heck we have Brace emotes and have posts about every ep of trueanon and Brace is pretty much of the same view as BE on China

It becomes exhausting for everyone