When a person of color, especially if they're black like me, affirms their support for causes such as queer liberation, feminism, animal rights, or socialism, I immediately feel that I can believe, with minimal doubt, that they're truly convicted and principled in what they're advocating for.
However, when a white person claims to support leftism, until my skepticism is proven wrong, I immediately assume they're a dishonest and performative libshit. I then proceed to interact with them with hefty amounts of caution. If my assumptions are proven true, I'm never shocked.
I don't know how else to say this but if this is real you sound like such a weird person, do you actually get anything done in the organization where you practice this or do you only organize (and talk) with people who don't pass as white?
^ Reminder that crackers are really easy to break
I'm honestly curious how this type of mindset actually works in practice, it's hard to see how it can be productive in a context where people of color are not a majority and you need to have people on your side so I was hoping you'd enlighten me, but if this is just internet stuff then whatever.
I'm honestly curious how you expect me to assume good faith and then you start off your concern with "you sound like such a weird person" and not-so-subtle accusations of "not getting anything done". The effort to feign good faith didn't work. Give up.
You're right maybe I shouldn't have opened with that and I couldn't tell whether you were serious or venting and hoped for the later, I'm frustrated at the lack of an american left and I think that kind of mindset as a conscious political choice contributes to that problem, that's why I have some disdain for it.
no offense but you are kind of proving angels point
What's their point exactly and how am I proving it?
it's easy to see their point: we as white people are untrustworthy allies (not completely, but in a significant enough fraction to warrant defensive behaviors.) You seem to be questioning their decisions a lot, like you don't believe they are valid... it is in the interest of untrustworthy people to criticize anyone calling them out for their untrustworthiness
Yeah sure that's a valid point, I might've read too much into what they said (and thought of people I've known irl) and came out with unfair assumptions, which is my b
see? there you have it! actual nice job self critting by the way. have a nice rest of your day comrade
They mentioned still talking to white people just with caution.
Well that's good, so is caution when interacting with self-avowed "leftists"