I used to assume this was just common leftist sense, but it seems I was mistaken, :the-more-you-know: so I'm posting this.

Fuck nazbols, no matter what LARPing they do and no matter how much they claim to be leftists. :sus-soviet:

I don't just mean one particular self-styled professional organizer that's likely currently working on their 5th "not an alt" alt account to continue sending me manifestos about how the "strong" (conveniently, and to their sick pleasure as a spectator) will surely crush the "weak" (presumably anyone that doesn't agree with them) and that "the mentally ill" (defined as anyone they don't like) must be despised, you know, for leftism. :silver-legion:

Both online and offline I don't recognize, accept, or tolerate any form of leftism that isn't intersectional and inclusive. By extension, because of the paradox of tolerance, that also means that nazbols can fuck right off. Any sort of so-called "leftist" future they dream of, where they jerk themselves off with self-serving power fantasies that exclude what they call the weak while goosestepping in Soviet military cosplay is not a future I want for myself or anyone I care about. :nyet:

It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway, that any organizing attempt that excludes "the mentally ill" as the aforementioned nazbol put it, or LGBTQIA+ people, or does any bigoted wrecker ideology under pretense of "removing divisiveness" :lmayo: :us-foreign-policy: can also fuck right off.

One more thing: "organize or die" becomes a destructive slogan if it is twisted into the nazbol belief that "the weak" must be ostracized for the sake of organization. Nothing of value will be organized if the organizers are grandiose hateful selfish assholes. :disgost:

Nazbols fuck off. :pit:

Edit: Removed some unintentionally ableist terms. The message is the same, and truly they weren't needed anyway.

  • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    if you have a “socialist” group thats just a bunch of cishet yt dudes, they wont get much done bc they will tend to uphold institutions that benefit them

    Gonna second this one based on personal experience. A lot of people will legitimately regress in their class consciousness in order to defend some sense of pride over their ingroup. Like people who were fully on board with labor action torpedoing shit because of The Gay Agenda or Performative Wokeness. They’ll take a look at a labor union in its infancy and literally go side with management when they start union busting. Like if I tell you, “management is gonna start trying to find wedge issues and one of those is gonna be to get you to throw Anon under the bus,” in no fucking circumstance should your response to be to immediately comply with management.

    The flip side of this is that there are people who do have super bigoted beliefs but have the sense to hold their fucking tongue and not act like a puppet on a string the minute someone says one of the conservative culture war trigger words. This always kills me when stupidpol types are ranting about how you have to organize with bigots. You know what? Yeah, you do. And you know what that involves? Getting them to shut the fuck up about that bigotry. And generally as a result they become less bigoted because organizing is about building relationships and getting closer to people is the number 1 way to undo bigoted beliefs

    • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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      2 years ago

      good point, some of those we organize with hold reactionary ideas in their heads. doesnt mean we have to let them air out those ideas. if they are offended by us pushing back against their bigotry they can leave the movement. we dont need people who spread ideas that uphold capital and its institutions in our ranks. for every openly bigoted person we associate with, we alienate many times more marginalized people. they can shut up about their culture war hangups or get out. we support black, indigenous, womens', gay, trans, etc. liberation, no exceptions