Jesus: is crucified

Catholics: “Look at how good this Friday is”

Getting brutally tortured and crucified sounds like a pretty terrible Friday to me. An actual Good Friday would be like, Jesus getting high with his buddies and playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 on the PS1 while eating pizza.

Can someone please explain this.

EDIT: How about “Good Friday” but it’s Jesus getting high with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    He's the demiurge, the creator of everything.

    So! Who created the Serpent?

    Humans are special because we're the only creations with free will.

    So why does the Serpent tempt humanity?

    It's all a fucking test for humans to see how much we love God.

    • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      omnipotence and omnipresence preclude the existence of free will. Either god knows everything that will happen, in which case every choice a human ever makes including ones which condemn them to hell are all part of something god set in motion and is ultimately responsible for, OR god is not actually all knowing and able to foresee that

      I don't care what weaselly arguments christians have invented against this in the last 2000 years to "um akshually" me because as far as I am concern this is case fucking closed

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Did he intend for that angel to fall from grace and turn evil?

      That being said, I guess you can criticize him for his relative inaction when it comes to that negative side of his creation...

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        Angels don't have free will! Only humans have that, that's canonically what makes us so special.

        That angel was created to fall from grace from the very start. Just God play-acting with His dolls.

        • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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          7 months ago

          Ok, now you're bringing mudpies into the argument...

          The consensus of scholars who focus on the study of free will in the ancient world is that the Bible does not explicitly address free will.[11][12][13]

          The leading scholar on the subject of free will in antiquity, Michael Frede, observed that "freedom and free will cannot be found in either the Septuagint or the New Testament and must have come to the Christians mainly from Stoicism."[14]

          State me ** a bible verse where God mentions "free will" being only inherent within humanity** or I will think of it as pagan revisionism, like that people did with Christmas and Easter...

          Let alone the prove that Free will is canon within the bible....

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            7 months ago

            Huh. Totally thought it was canonical. My bad!

            Though, uh, "free will is apocryphal" doesn't really contradict my point? If there isn't free will in angels or humanity then it's all just God playing with his dolls.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                7 months ago

                It still leaves the problem of God being all-knowing and perfect.

                He created the Serpent fully knowing that the Serpent would go on to tempt humanity and cause the Fall.

                Why not just not create the Serpent? Seems pretty intentional to me, even if the Serpent had free will.