But people said the same thing about photography and painting 150 years ago!

This is entirely different from that. Landscaping had aesthetic value after photography because people were able to embellish and stylize landscapes in ways they didn't actually exist in real life. There is no way to "escape" from AI into more stylization. All it takes is enough of those new stylized images and it'll be able to replicate it. This is different from photography because photography can't learn.

But people want human expression!

Yes, they do, but they'll probably only realize this after a couple decades of art [almost] completely uninspired by the human condition and depression and anxiety skyrockets. In the short term, people will only care that they can type into a field and get what they want without any significant investment. Good luck finding an art job that isn't just making prompts in that economy (And if you say that making prompts is the same as being a painter or illustrator, yes it is art but no it isn't the same and fuck you).

I rest my case, art automation is cool but under capitalism it'll only be used to devalue artists further, and drive them deeper into poverty. It would be a great tool in a society capable of regulating itself but WE DON'T LIVE IN THAT SOCIETY AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT.

STOP LISTENING TO :melon-musk: :debatebro-l: AND SUPPORT YOUR ARTIST COMRADES NOW

Now that I got your attention with my inflammatory statements, please commission your artist comrades and support them in their struggle to exist in what is already a very punishing world to live in. I promise to give any of you that do big hugs, I love you all, and bye.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      Oh my god this guy is on about fucking art again? Last time he was insisting that you couldnt understand modern art without having gone through a full college education and just kept going on about this fucking bullshit "oooh i bow to your superior education".

    • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      just read up ..

      ist im Allgemeinen eine Bezeichnung des wohlhabenden Bürgertums oder im Marxismus die Bezeichnung der herrschenden sozialen Klasse der Gesellschaft, die der Klasse des Proletariats gegenübersteht und manchmal auch zur Abgrenzung gegenüber der (künstlerischen) Bohème verwendet wird.

      Im Gegensatz zur beherrschten und ausgebeuteten Klasse der Arbeiter, deren Angehörige nur ihre auf dem Arbeitsmarkt zu verkaufende Arbeitskraft besitzen, sind die Groß unfd Kleinbürger daher Eigentümer der entscheidenden Produktionsmittel (etwa Fabriken, Transportmittel, Bodenschätze) und können mit deren Hilfe – und durch die Ausbeutung der Arbeiter (just one Indicator not THE Indicator) – ihren Kapitalbesitz beständig vermehren.

      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie