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    • RedCoat [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      theory book club is a good idea, and might encourage me to actually read some more.

    • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Me too - I voted for it in the book club poll and am part way through. I'd be down for a discussion.

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Debt.

    Bullshit Jobs was originally an article that got way too popular so he made it a book. The book is interminable and padded all to hell as a result. The article gets the same point across easier and better.

    Debt is a tour de force, it's insanely good.

    Utopia of Rules is also ok, and worth reading before BS jobs if you want more.

  • Enver_Hoxha [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    i really like both maybe debt is more intersting. i tought debt was hard to get through so i just listened to the audiobook

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'd say Debt first since it lays the foundation for where we are now.

  • Time [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Debt! It covers so much interesting ground and is probably more challenging but I honestly couldn't get in to bullshit jobs. Utopia of Rules is also a less intimidating place to start and is incredibly good.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Utopia of Rules is also kind of the conceptual underpinning for Bullshit Jobs.

    • Straylight [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Well that's neither then since I'm not in the mood for either a b.s. job or debt

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    If you have a Marxist theoretical background (whatever that is) I suggest passing those two very relevant books for something else instead:

    His "Towards an anthropological theory of value" (or however its called at libgen). It does try to revise Marx theory by building up onto smart "women-anthropologists" before him and to search about how value is generated in money less societies and how everyday-interaction does produce and reproduce society and as such value concepts.

    I understood what was written as kind of a good lense to look at his other works in some situations. Also it can be read on a weekend and is pretty clear (unlike Marx).

  • theytakemeawayfrom [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    bullshit jobs is good, but it's filled with a lot of testimonies from people with bullshit jobs, which make the book a lot longer than it probably should be. the fundamental substance of the book can be described in probably a few dozen pages but it's 300+ pages in total. I still think it's pretty interesting.

    haven't read debt so I can't comment on that