perhaps im more of an optimist than most here, but most of the stuff ive seen on here seems to me like just fundamentally decent people still trapped in ideology, transparently wrestling with their own consciences and (badly) trying to convince themselves that actually this is the one instance where the ruling ideology is right on the money and the system is basically fine, cos if it wasnt id have to change and thats scary. i really think even the chuddiest-sounding ones on here have looked like just scared people reflexively lashing out as a defense mechanism, and i do think theyll figure it out eventually cos they sound just like i did right before i figured it out (except louder lol). but yeah heres a couple more:

• haha im going to eat more of those animals you care so much about because youre so annoying haha. le triggered? im gonna eat even more haha. why are you so upset? its a joke bro, cant you take a joke?

• you say animals are killed for animal products, well what about [incredibly niche edge case]? nono i didnt mean all of [incredibly niche edge case that whoops actually usually does involve animal killing], i only meant what if [incredibly niche edge case of an incredibly niche edge case], stop shifting the goalposts