It is September 18th and carnists are still murderers.

    • maya [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Great, glad we agree on that, so what exactly does make killing living things for your pleasure acceptable?

        • maya [she/her, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          We're talking about animal agriculture, but if you'd rather disengage because you realize how stupid you look I can just drop a PPB and end it.

            • maya [she/her, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Also the irony of saying that nazis and vegans use the same language, only to be using the phrase "inferior beings" unironically a few comments later.

                • MF_BROOM [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Nobody is saying that humans and animals is an apples-to-apples comparison, carnists put these words in the mouths of vegans all the time and it's really fucking annoying and a straw-man argument. However, you'd have to be a moron to not see the parallels between human and animal suffering, because animals, just like humans, very much have a capacity to suffer. As for myself, I don't think "superiority" and "inferiority" are morally relevant characteristics anyways, so long as an animal has a capacity to suffer, which they do. If I have the choice to not participate in a cruel, sadistic industry that tortures animals by the billions, why the fuck wouldn't I abstain from that?

                  If we perceive ourselves as superior to all other life on Earth, one could argue that that's exactly why we should hold ourselves to higher moral standards and not needlessly slaughter billions of animals each year for human consumption when so many plant-based alternatives exist.

                  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Nobody is saying that humans and animals is an apples-to-apples comparison

                    Using "murder" to describe killing an animal is kind of saying that, right?

                • maya [she/her, they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  When you say "animals are objectively inferior to humans" what you mean "non-humans are objective inferior to humans." Since humans are animals, there must be some trait that you think makes a human more worthy of moral consideration. What is that trait?

              • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                I don't eat meat and I try to avoid all animal products. Si no hay café para todos, no habrá para nadie.

                • MF_BROOM [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Sounds like you could try harder, you better get on that

                • maya [she/her, they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  If that's the case you agree with 90% of the vegan position anyways, so I don't know what you have to gain from coming here and stirring shit.