• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah. This upsets me so much. They just... lost half the fucking country under of Obama. For no reason. Totally unforced error. It's so fucking bizarre and really taps in to that "Stupid or collaborators" question.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      The thing that kills me is Biden isn't even promising to pack the supreme court. The dems have just given it the GOP from now to decades into the future. And in that time - the GOP justices will do immense damage to the US. They'll legislate from the bench and do whatever they want. I think it's possible they'll void Biden's student loan bill. And I think it's likely they'll cripple the climate spending in the IRA.

      But - this is important - if you're in line to vote for the supreme court - stay in line!

    • Fartster [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Can you explain further, I think I know what you mean but having trouble thinking. I was more or less removed from society from 08-14 but I worked with some big chuds who were openly extremely racist and homophobic around that time and a general sense of alienation and denial that there can be a black president, but didn't pay attention to policies. I don't have a good sense of the timeline of the political culture shifting so my perception of things are likely off. I definitely felt it prior to the 2016 election.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'd have to do a bunch of research to put the whole thing together, but the short version is that during Obama's presidency the Democrats just didn't support state level and down ticket races. They just didn't help anyone running for state legislatures. As a result they got creamed. The GOP gained like a thousand seats in legislatures all over the country in one or two elections. And now ten years later the GOP has used that advantage to pass all kinds of anti-democratic and racist and otherwise bad laws. It's also contributed directly to their ability to stack the Judiciary with fash judges.

        This is lib bullshit but it might get you started on doing research

        https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/10/14211994/obama-democrats-downballot

        • Fartster [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Thank you, ill just take your word for it, Id rather just have a general idea than spend time being wonky. I thought you were referring to losing a large part of the electorate which i suppose was a side effect but you were being more literal re the seats they lost.

          I spent most of that time critical of obamas imperialist hypocrisy and didnt pay attention to the details of who won and lost this and that, I think Ill stick with that mindset tbh I dont even really know who manchin is but i imagine he looks like gigachad based on his name

          • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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            2 years ago

            The politician named whose name is pronounced mansion is obviously corrupt because reality is written by hacks.

            One of his demands to vote for the IRA was that the federal gov't had to auction off 60 million acres for on/offshore oil drilling the year before.

            His state, WV, has no coastline and almost no federal land.