MoA is offline today, very suspicious timing. here's the archive link

EDIT: MoA back online

  • emizeko [they/them]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    I used to think that energy costs would cause Germany to fold in November

    now a bunch of people are gonna freeze to death and European industry is going to get shredded

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, I too assumed this was essentially a multi-party standoff where everyone was waiting for someone else to blink. Meanwhile the US was trying to prolong it to take economic and military advantage.

      Now I'm pretty certain there will be no end. In fact I suspect this conflict will role into another. A new wave of terror attacks and industrial sabotage will continue in Europe. Maybe even political assassinations. I hope I'm wrong, but I see the US treating Europe the same way they do the Middle East or increasingly Africa. :doomer:

      • emizeko [they/them]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        like Awoo said in the other thread

        Everyone I know looked at me funny when I said that the US was going to treat Europe like the Middle East and aim to completely destabilise all of it then reap whatever it can gain from opportunities that the chaos provides.

        It is the only way that they know how to operate. Europe is now a major theatre for them and they are operating in it exactly as they operate everywhere else in the world.

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It's a feeling I've had growing for a while, but the pipeline attacks have forced it to crystalise.

          As for Awoo's post in the other thread, she couldn't be more right as far as I'm concerned. And reading it now, she put it far my eloquently.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    can someone speak to how fucked up is it going to get in Germany this winter for regular people? because things already looked wild before this in terms of energy forecasting, and if this maneuver signals NATO commitment to expansion and escalation of the conflict, i can no longer estimate how brutal this is going to get.

    i imagine americans will believe the media when it says the russians sabotaged their own pipeline (the same pipeline that biden threatened to destroy in spring), but are germans going to accept that story?

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    2 years ago

    Man it was nice believing Europe was done with hot wars.