Most people alive today are driven by religious and spiritual beliefs, they aren't gonna become le epic reddit logic atheists overnight even after the revolution.
they aren’t gonna become le epic reddit logic atheists
Le epic :reddit-logo: logic atheists are driven by religious and spiritual beliefs with extra steps, especially regarding :my-hero: and "singularity" nerd rapture fantasies, not to mention "Effective Altruism" and its "longtermist" takes about how climate change and environmental collapse don't matter because trillions of cyber-angels dancing on the head of a pin a billion years from now is more important, and that the supposed priority for making that happen is predictably making the rich richer right now.
I've gotten into so many arguments about longtermism in the past week... I explained the concept using quotes from the founders of the ideology and they just responded with "Well how come the Wikipedia article doesn't mention that?"
Exactly. It's not a matter of whether people should or shouldn't become religious - they already are. We can either accept that and try to find a way to reach them or let them fall prey to the religious right.
there's no need to engage on that basis. helping your community is helping your community, bringing jesus into it is just extra steps.
like, we all understand why patsocs wrapping themselves in the flag is stupid and bad, why is it so hard to apply the same reasoning to carrying a cross? all it does is let child rapists and scam artists steal your valor.
Most people alive today are driven by religious and spiritual beliefs, they aren't gonna become le epic reddit logic atheists overnight even after the revolution.
Le epic :reddit-logo: logic atheists are driven by religious and spiritual beliefs with extra steps, especially regarding :my-hero: and "singularity" nerd rapture fantasies, not to mention "Effective Altruism" and its "longtermist" takes about how climate change and environmental collapse don't matter because trillions of cyber-angels dancing on the head of a pin a billion years from now is more important, and that the supposed priority for making that happen is predictably making the rich richer right now.
I've gotten into so many arguments about longtermism in the past week... I explained the concept using quotes from the founders of the ideology and they just responded with "Well how come the Wikipedia article doesn't mention that?"
A very good question asked in very bad faith! :sus-soviet:
you're giving the average person way too much credit on their ideological consistency or adherence.
The spiritual beliefs don't have to be ideologically consistent but the fact remains that most people overall hold some kind of spiritual worldview.
Exactly. It's not a matter of whether people should or shouldn't become religious - they already are. We can either accept that and try to find a way to reach them or let them fall prey to the religious right.
there's no need to engage on that basis. helping your community is helping your community, bringing jesus into it is just extra steps.
like, we all understand why patsocs wrapping themselves in the flag is stupid and bad, why is it so hard to apply the same reasoning to carrying a cross? all it does is let child rapists and scam artists steal your valor.
nah but we can still get rid of their churches