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i honestly just wanna express my gratitude to all the people who made linux what it is today over the last decades, the experience is incomparable to the one i had when first installing debian in 2007. i wish i were more skilled in order to meaningfully give back to this community.
and to all the newbies: thanks for joining our ranks! please dont be scared by the rather elitist attitude that some users display. we secretly all love you!
If you want to give back but don't have coding skills, you can always be nice and help onboard new users! There's always been this attitude of 'linux is better' immediately followed by 'rtfm n00b' when users try to get started. A more sympathetic crowd would go a long way.
thanks for the piece of mind! while i do have some skills due to my work, its not remotely enough to work on linux. im gonna be a recruiter then..
I think I first installed linux some time around 2009. I'm only just now starting to contribute to libraries, unrelated to linux. Its such a cool feeling growing along side the open source movement.
The games I play work just fine under Linux. I'm EXTREMELY thankful for every single person that has contributed to Linux or the apps they can use.
If I wasn't such a monkey I'd help any way I could.
I'm not such a monkey, and I could probably contribute if I put my mind to it, but I just don't have the time.... Instead I try to contribute documentation and money when I can. Everything helps!
I feel the same way. I'm not a pro programmer or anything, but we can still be positive members of the community and help out users and share why Linux is a better alternative, and that's gotta count for something! :)
At this point I use Linux for everything except my music production hobby (Mac for that) and even then I use Renoise and BitWig on Linux. I've been on Linux since 1996 but I haven't been 100% Linux until the past two years.
I have, over the years, spent quite some money on (windows) VSTs. I've tried in the past to get them running on Linux, but with no success : even when the installer worked fine in wine, the tools used to get the VSTs to run using bitwig either introduced too much lag, or the sound was stuttering. Have you had some more success and if so, can you give me some pointers?
I'll try that as soon as I can.
I don't know the reason why I didn't use it the last time I tried ( about 2 years ago?), maybe I didn't find anyone mentioning yabridge at the time (I never asked, I just searched), maybe another reason.
But now I remember I ended up using Carla with an extension that let it use Windows plugins, which I would advise against.
If I get the VSTs that mean the most to me running well enough on Linux, then there's nothing keeping me on Windows
Yabridge is the way to go. I used to use LinVST in the past but with very mixed results. With yabridge, ~90% of my plugins work perfectly, including Native Instruments plugins which have always been my favourites.
Just know that Wine >9.4 is currently bugged and will not work with yabridge. There is a discussion on Github about installing 9.4 and holding it from updating.
https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge/issues/320
Was LinVST among the tools you tried? It works really well for my purchased VSTs.
I did try LinVST, but at the time I couldn't get the converted VSTs to run in anything I tried. Maybe I was being stupid at the time, or maybe it wasn't as stable at the time compared to now, but thanks for reminding me, as now I will try to use it again the next time I try to make the switch, together with yabridge.
On Linux I use Bitwig for live guitar play and the Renoise music tracker for sample chop based beat making. Eventually everything I make on Linux goes to the Mac for the bulk of the finish work. I stuck with Mac for most music for the same reasons as you but also because I could not find anything that comes close to my M2 Max based system in a compact laptop format. Those Apple chips are crazy.
What he said is that he does the majority of his hobby on a Mac, but also installed music apps on Linux.
Apple managed to grab a good chunk of the market by making some well-functioning creative apps early on, but I'm not sure if they really have any advantage over Windows anymore.
Music production on Linux is still somewhat behind, due to limited software. People get paid for making that stuff on other platforms, so Linux developers are scarce.
Some of it is also moving to tablets and phones these days, so the kind of person to buy a Mac only for easy music production will probably just get a dongle for their iPad.
You'll still need a pc/mac for the full studio experience. Not because of software, but because its difficult to rig an entire music studio into a touchscreen with a single usb port. I mean, sure it's possible, but you don't want to. Latency, multiple monitors and a shit load of controllers make it physically
impossibleunreliable.On the bright side for Linux, music production is actually very low demanding, so it makes perfect sense to run an old laptop with a low spec distro and still have the same options as the state-of-the-art rig. Young starving artists will probably go that way instead of buying Mac.
Music production on Linux is still somewhat behind, due to limited software.
Audio support has historically been dogshit, and still to this day can be incredibly finicky. Audio latency has also typically been by far the best on Mac OS. But I think lately with Linux with the exact right combination of hardware and software it can be better. Can.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1c923fvcwyla1.jpg
Yes and no. I use Bitwig mostly for free play (guitar and keyboards) and Renoise for beat making. Everything else is on my Mac.
At this rate we might just see the Year of the Linux DesktopTM on our deathbeds!
Do you really need that the majority of users use the same OS you use? It'd be nice but not necessary at all.
I bought Windows 11 early on so I'm still using it to justify the purchase on my desktop, but I moved my OEM licensed laptop over to Debian a few months ago.
Can confirm that as soon as Windows 11 is no longer supported or it gets slightly more ass, I'll be moving my desktop over to Debian or Arch or something as well.
With the advent of gaming becoming so much more accessible on linux either through native support or through something like proton, I am very hard pressed to find any reason to stay.
I bought two Windows 8 Pro key for $20 each at the peak of it's hate. I'm reusing those bad boys until they stop being accepted, and when that happens i'll just ignore the water mark.
What’s odd to me is the cultural zeitgeist has moved to folks being aware that Microsoft (& Google & Apple) is collecting data on them to being the butt of jokes, yet those folks aren’t adopting an alternatives. With over a decade on Linux I’m now pretty out of touch with the opposite feeling. I guess the closest analog I have is not being able to realistically leave Android behind, but that is more hardware than software (banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them).
banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device
It's unfortunately only developed for the Pixel series of phones, but I've been using my banking apps on GrapheneOS with no issues.
Yep. If it doesn’t have a headphone jack, I don’t want the phone so no to Pixels.
I'm using Kitsune Mask right now and it's working pretty well on hiding root from my banking app and Google pay.
Now that gaming is effectively a solved problem thanks to Proton, Adobe Lightroom is just about the only thing keeping my desktop PC on Windows. My laptop is already running Linux. I’ve tried the FOSS alternatives but none of them fits my workflow like Lightroom. This is a me problem more so than a problem with any of these pieces of software.
Adobe Lightroom is just about the only thing keeping my desktop PC on Windows
Have you tried any of these?
https://itsfoss.com/raw-image-tools-linux/
Windows 11 was officially released. That giant spike in late 2021 almost perfectly matched when Windows 11 was released. The Steam Deck was released in early 2022. So, from the graph, I would say the two main contributing factors are Windows 11 sucking to no one's surprise and the Steam Deck exposing people to Linux gaming.
Pandemic lockdown maybe? Everyone got bored a few months into 2020. By 2021 they finally figured out their wifi drivers 🤷
(I'm joking, I haven't seriously struggled with wifi for a long time. I use Debian btw.)
I would say steam deck, both in actual installs and in raising awareness, but that wasn't until 2022
Honestly with this rate we may even reach 5% on end of this year or maybe even earlier Proton FTW
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Just wait for Windows 10's service life to run out. That's when I'm switching full time
