I know a lot of people who do art for a living. They are basically treated like shit by capitalism. Nobody respects how much time, effort and training goes into art. Art is fucking hard. You get paid next to nothing for it.

Unless you sell your soul to work in advertising/marketing. Then you get paid only slightly more than nothing. You are also now expected to churn out a fuckton of art each day if you want to keep your job. Enjoy watching everything unique, creative and special be sucked out of your art by higher-ups that demand safe, soulless corporate art. Enjoy being told you're expendable and easily replaced so you work an extra 5 hours unpaid that night. Working conditions in some advertising agencies are close to resembling sweatshops with how they exploit their junior artists in particular. I knew someone that used to work 7 days a week, even though they weren't paid on weekends. They worked until midnight (unpaid overtime) only to start again at 8am the next day again. That's how 'competitive' the industry is. They eventually had a nervous breakdown and changed careers.

Art being some bourgeoise thing where a beret-wearing snob sells a photo of piss for 5 trillion dollars is not the norm (as funny as that would be). The norm is backbreaking work for very little in return, like every other job title that isn't CEO, Manager, or Landlord.

So yeah, even though I'm fascinated by AI art and don't think it would necessarily be a bad thing if it was being used in a socialist setting, I think artists have every right to be upset that tech bros are finding a way to suck even more life out of art.

In short, creatives get treated like shit. Thinking art isn't real work is chud-level shit.

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Who said that they're not working class or that it's not real work? I've never seen that claim.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      https://hexbear.net/post/225802/comment/2880136

      People upset about AI art sound like aristocrats who are upset that peasants have access to pigments

      Oh the Ai art generator has no “soul” and it’s soy and reddit? This precious art form (illustrating things that other people pay you to, a medium dominated almost entirely by furries, porn, and furry porn) is being destroyed by the evil AI? I’m sorry that the democratization of art creation is so upsetting to you. I’ve brought dozens of ideas to life by typing words into a prompt and I didn’t have to pay someone $300 to do so.

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If what you got out of that was "artists aren't working class" and "art isn't real work" you're looking to be upset.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          What was the intended message, then? You're likely to be more persuasive without utilizing the "u mad" format to go with your disingenous "haha I am not calling artists aristocrats... unless" spiel.

    • frontal [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It's more like artists are alienated from the working class and seldom if ever produce art that celebrates working class values. Instead, most of the art we see actively punches down on working class values. So yeah, perhaps economically artists are working class, but culturally no.

      "Poetry is nobody's business except the poet's, and everybody else can fuck off."

      -- Philip Larkin