[NOT A JOKE] Israeli war cabinet minister Benny Gantz said that Hamas fighters "are eliminated or in hiding" declares Hamas defeated, but sees years of fighting ahead
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TEL AVIV, April 10. /TASS/. While Hamas has been defeated on the battleground, Israel will need to send soldiers to fight Palestinian radicals in the Gaza Strip for years to come, Israeli war cabinet minister Benny Gantz said.
"From a military point of view Hamas is defeated. Its fighters are eliminated or in hiding," he said following a meeting of his National Unity party in the city of Sderot.
Still, it’s not the end of the battle for Israel, the minister said.
"Fighting against Hamas will take time. Boys who are now in middle school will still fight in the Gaza Strip, like in Judea and Samaria and against Lebanon," he went on to say.
The situation in the Middle East sharply escalated following an incursion of Hamas militants from the Gaza Strip into Israel on October 7, accompanied by killings of residents of Israeli settlements near the border and taking more than 200 hostages, including children, women and elderly people. Hamas cast the attack as a response to Israeli actions against the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Israel declared a complete siege of the Gaza Strip and started striking the enclave and parts of Lebanon and Syria. Clashes are also taking place in the West Bank.
The US has tried and failed for decades, you can’t defeat a tactic by just fighting them like a traditional army. The US sunk 20 years, $10 trillion USD, and oceans of blood into Afghanistan and achieved nothing. You also can’t force a people to “turn in the baddies for peace” by just flattening them like the US did in Korea and Vietnam… all it does is make the population hate you more and side with the side that fights them.
It’s like Israel are Klingons or something that cannot visualize any solutions but violence and war.
That military victory against true guerrillas is possible seems doubtful on the basis of modern experience, barring the use of methods approaching genocide,
War of the Flea, pg 26
"Clear and hold" operations, patterned on the French oil-slick technique, failed to remedy the situation, for the obvious reasons. The "clear and hold" strategy is always doomed to failure because the government, while strong enough to clear any given area temporarily, cannot hold many such areas without dangerously scattering its forces. In the face of a determined "clear and hold" drive, the guerrillas simply withdraw and redouble their activities elsewhere.
War of the Flea, pg 86
All reactionaries are paper tigers. In appearance, the reactionaries are terrifying, but in reality, they are not so powerful. From a long-term point of view, it is not the reactionaries but the people who are powerful.
Mao - "Talk with the American Correspondent Anna Louise Strong" (August 1946), Selected Works, Vol. IV, p. 100.
Take the Ultra pill, reject reformism. You have been watching a force of teenagers in adidas track suits with RPGs handling the most well funded and well equip military in the world, in urban warfare. You should be taking notes, Gaza is the climate plan, Cop City = Gaza Strip.
My little brother recently found my little red book, and happened to turn to the page with the quote you have there. Explaining what a paper tiger was to him was so fun. He’s a quick little kid for not even 10. Idk why I’m sharing this, but your comment reminded me of it, and his intense interest in the book gave me some extra hope for the younger generation. The kids really are pretty cool these days.
The US sunk 20 years, $10 trillion USD, and oceans of blood into Afghanistan and achieved nothing.
Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and their investors would beg to differ
The US kill-death ratio is also telling.
During the Global War on Terror less than ten thousand US citizens killed in the conflict but around a million Afghans and Iraqis directly killed along with around 4 million people across the region indirectedly killed. Even the Vietnam war was something like 40,000 US citizens killed in exchange for around 3 million killed on the Vietnamese side. Hell... the US kill-death ratio in the World War 2 Pacific theater, some of the most brutal fighting the US has engaged in, was only 70,000 US citizens killed in exchange for 2.5 million Japanese soliders and somewhere around 1 million Japanese civilians killed.
The US has amazing kill-death ratios across all its wars excluding its civil war when busy fighting among itself. It's disgusting really. The US will lose a few thousand while killing millions on the other side. Even in total war engagements the US loses thousands while the other combatants lose many millions. Since 1775 the US has only lost around 650,000 even when including both the US civil war and World War 2.
People always make the mistake of assuming during colonial adventures the US is doing anything other than smashing everything up (immediately wiping out the opposing military) then sitting back and milking any insurgency for as long as it is profitable to maintain a low intensity conflict. The US has really only ever fought two conflicts on a total-war footing (Civil War, World War 2) but managed to have hundreds of colonial adventures and so-called police actions throughout its entire history. For most of its history the US has been fighting one or more military actions somewhere, starting with westward expansion across North American then the so-called banana-wars advancing US corporate interests across Latin America and various colonial or cold war adventures across the entirety of the eastern hemisphere.
Someday, that kill-death ratio will come back to haunt the west- because it exposes them for what they are, nothing more than terrorists, bloodthirsty murderers. IMO it shows that there cannot be peace, till the west is decolonized- denazified- till the seeds (ideology) of empire are rooted out entirely; it is necessary for the rest of the world to ever be secure.
Josip Borrell's talk about "the garden having to invade the jungle" (in which he was referring to Nuland's husband's, Kagan's book "the Jungle Grows Back") had it wrong. The west has always had it wrong- they are the threat to civilization, to humanity, to any notion of decency. IMO someday, eventually, there is a high chance that the global south, the "jungle," will find themselves having to intervene in the genocidal "gardens" of the west; certainly, if there is no revolutionary change within the west, it will be necessary.
Even if they kill every man, woman, and child in Palestine, someone, somewhere would take up the torch. It's impossible to destroy terrorist groups without addressing the root cause.
I like how they're trying to declare a victory, when H is still fighting in the north. They're doing this bc Iran is gonna strike them and has announced that they will do something for the embassy strike.
Lmaoooo at "years of fighting", they're about to get absolutely molly wopped and don't want to make it seem like they're making everything worse while accomplishing nothing
They're really worried about the Iran retaliation and it's very telling.
The fact that Israel indiscriminately cause property damage, targeted civilians, and forcebly displaced Palestinians without compensation proved that Israel is fighting not against Hamas, but against all Palestinains and descendents of Jews who stayed in the former land of the ancient Israel kingdom. Anyway, the claim by an Israel war cabinet that they still need to kill many Palestinains despite their declaration that they defeated Hamas proved that Israel are intentionally terrorizing innocent civilians.
- That's stupid
- Well yeah, there's no way Hamas is still in function after 6 months of bombing. Going into Rafah is clearly all about killing as many civillians as possible, that's the only reason they want to go there.
Except that Hamas is still functioning. Don't fall for the defeatist propaganda. If they weren't still a threat the Zionist genociders wouldn't need to constantly pull out and reconstitute their units. Their bombs can kill a lot of civilians and destroy a lot of homes and hospitals, but they cannot break the resistance.
The US had the same cope in Afghanistan, every other week it would seem they killed a high-profile leader, and it never fucking mattered. Because a "terrorist" is just someone pissed off enough to use violence, you can't squash them like that.
We can see that Palestinian commanders are still setting up operations. They’re not going anywhere.
