Sounds like maybe he could have been a leftish liberal who got pipelined rightward by culture war stuff over the last 3-4 years.
Not sure what the "primary" contradiction might be in this type of person's mind. It kind of sounds like he's been caught up by the "capture" of the word "left" by liberals combined with the cynical co-opting of leftist rhetoric by the right, which funnels unprincipled but otherwise leftish people into ideologically-incoherent rightism.
What's his opinion on Haiti? Perhaps if you can get through to him with comparisons to Cuba (actual Cuba, not western propaganda) it could unravel some brainworms?
He’s an American who is strongly anti-imperialist and anti-USA, it’s why I still cling on to the hope he’s a leftist despite those other things. But being ‘anti-imperialist’ nowadays doesn’t mean much, I’ve found out. His opinion on Haiti is inline with every leftist voice I’ve ever heard. It just seems like when it comes to local stuff, he sounds more and more like a chud.
Hmm anti-imperialism is interesting and promising, isn't it? That's a line even leftish libs in the US don't seem to get. So do you think maybe he's a leftist that's been caught up in culture war propaganda? Especially if he's financially comfortable, it's pretty easy for ideological drift to happen without strong principles and a community (which largely hasn't existed for the left in the US).
If that's the case maybe it's better to do case-by-case targeted education on specific topics. Like, if you think he's a somewhat leftist person that's just being swayed by culture war stuff, pushing back on the culture war stuff and tying things back to leftist principals may be a good strategy. Like how no one is doing surgery on trans children, that's a made-up issue to rile up Fox News watchers (which is being used to manufacture legitimacy for removing children from homes and trafficking them). Maybe try and help him understand the difference between liberal corporate co-opting of popular rhetoric, and actual grassroots/leftist movements? It's like the corporation donning the mask of a marginalized group, making reactionaries target the marginalized group rather than the corporation.
I dunno him obviously, sorry if the spitballing is annoying. but I think talking through agitation/education tactics for situations like this can be useful
Sounds like maybe he could have been a leftish liberal who got pipelined rightward by culture war stuff over the last 3-4 years.
Not sure what the "primary" contradiction might be in this type of person's mind. It kind of sounds like he's been caught up by the "capture" of the word "left" by liberals combined with the cynical co-opting of leftist rhetoric by the right, which funnels unprincipled but otherwise leftish people into ideologically-incoherent rightism.
What's his opinion on Haiti? Perhaps if you can get through to him with comparisons to Cuba (actual Cuba, not western propaganda) it could unravel some brainworms?
He’s an American who is strongly anti-imperialist and anti-USA, it’s why I still cling on to the hope he’s a leftist despite those other things. But being ‘anti-imperialist’ nowadays doesn’t mean much, I’ve found out. His opinion on Haiti is inline with every leftist voice I’ve ever heard. It just seems like when it comes to local stuff, he sounds more and more like a chud.
Hmm anti-imperialism is interesting and promising, isn't it? That's a line even leftish libs in the US don't seem to get. So do you think maybe he's a leftist that's been caught up in culture war propaganda? Especially if he's financially comfortable, it's pretty easy for ideological drift to happen without strong principles and a community (which largely hasn't existed for the left in the US).
If that's the case maybe it's better to do case-by-case targeted education on specific topics. Like, if you think he's a somewhat leftist person that's just being swayed by culture war stuff, pushing back on the culture war stuff and tying things back to leftist principals may be a good strategy. Like how no one is doing surgery on trans children, that's a made-up issue to rile up Fox News watchers (which is being used to manufacture legitimacy for removing children from homes and trafficking them). Maybe try and help him understand the difference between liberal corporate co-opting of popular rhetoric, and actual grassroots/leftist movements? It's like the corporation donning the mask of a marginalized group, making reactionaries target the marginalized group rather than the corporation.
I dunno him obviously, sorry if the spitballing is annoying. but I think talking through agitation/education tactics for situations like this can be useful