Donald Parkinson from Cosmonaut Magazine joins Breht to talk about the life, political theory, and legacy of Lyndon LaRouche. In our own time we see LaRouche-type deviations manifesting on the so-called socialist left, and by studying LaRouche and his movement, we can better comprehend - and thus combat - its modern day iterations, while avoiding similar errors.

Check out Donald's article in Cosmonaut on LaRouche here: https://cosmonautmag.com/2019/03/larouche-a-warning-for-us-all/

related "MAGA communist" episode here https://hexbear.net/post/228434

  • vertexarray [any]
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    I'm going to listen to this because I'm quite interested in what there is to avoid in the LaRouche movement besides personality cults and going off the deep end

    update: LMAO GLOBE-SPANNING LAND BRIDGE

    • PROMIS_ring [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      No two countries that are connected by a globe spanning land bridge have ever fought a war against each other.

  • dog [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    LaRouche would drop the Luxemburgism (while still using her theories of crisis to the end) and focus on his pro-industrial corporatism, members of his organization becoming “patriots” instead of “comrades.”

    Hm I feel like I've seen other "leftist" groups adopting this same label today to push a pro industrial capitalist line of thinking :thinking-about-it:

  • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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    I'm enjoying it so far, but it's curious to pull the "some people say this guy is a fascist, that he's doing Mussolini-style, Hitler-style fascism." Don't equivocate and do the trump move of "people have said this," be up front! Tell me if this dude's a fascist!

    I'm sure he'll be more explicit later in the episode, but this just rubbed me the wrong way

      • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yes actually! There's a deep racist current in the NCLC, larouche's org, they formed gangs of brawlers to disrupt CPUSA meetings, there was ideological talk about unifying industrial and financial capital(that I need to relisten to), they ally with far right currents including the Reagan Administration, there's plenty of evidence for calling them fascist. I guess I was just knee jerk with the turn of phrase

        • PROMIS_ring [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think they were just implying in the intro that LaRouchites have been a subject of critique for a long time (as in, by others who preceded the pod hosts)

  • Eldungeon [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Brett is awesome. I'd love to hear him and Christman talk spirituality or maybe do an inebriated past episode.

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    • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The only people I see emphasizing calling themselves the Communist Left are :bordiga-despair:

    • PROMIS_ring [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I think the purpose might be to draw a distinction from the right deviation being described in the ep (who claim to be "the true communists") but idk

    • ciaran_cornerspaeti [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "the socialist left" is still a handy term in Europe as many neoliberal socdem centre left parties and organisations (due to quirks of history) are called socialists or the left

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