I think that's kind of the point though. Like even this book, written by a historian that clearly has a personal bias against Stalin and has a fuck ton of anti-communist brainworms, still reports that there was no genocide called the Holodomor. Even this conservative historian couldn't bring himself to just straight up fabricate that level of lie against a guy he clearly hates.
I was reading about this the other day and even the people who call it a genocide tend to use a much, much more expansive definition of the term. Apparently it was the original definition, and under the original definition you didn't have to try to kill all of an ethnic group, just some part of it. The more widely accepted definition is that genocide is when you're attempting to kill or otherwise destroy an entire ethnicity root and branch. Several scholars pointed out that if you used the more expansive definition of genocide you'd have to include many other mass killings, including notably the nuclear bombings of Japan and a bunch of other things I can't remember, with the point being that the expansive meaning of genocide becomes vague enough to have no real purpose.
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I think that's kind of the point though. Like even this book, written by a historian that clearly has a personal bias against Stalin and has a fuck ton of anti-communist brainworms, still reports that there was no genocide called the Holodomor. Even this conservative historian couldn't bring himself to just straight up fabricate that level of lie against a guy he clearly hates.
Yeah for sure. I get it, just had to get in my hatred of the book whenever it's mentioned.
I was reading about this the other day and even the people who call it a genocide tend to use a much, much more expansive definition of the term. Apparently it was the original definition, and under the original definition you didn't have to try to kill all of an ethnic group, just some part of it. The more widely accepted definition is that genocide is when you're attempting to kill or otherwise destroy an entire ethnicity root and branch. Several scholars pointed out that if you used the more expansive definition of genocide you'd have to include many other mass killings, including notably the nuclear bombings of Japan and a bunch of other things I can't remember, with the point being that the expansive meaning of genocide becomes vague enough to have no real purpose.