Why is squad pro proxy war in Ukraine and no Medicare for all in USA?
Not a proxy war. Thanks for letting everyone know you side with the abuser
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https://progressives.house.gov/_cache/files/5/5/5523c5cc-4028-4c46-8ee1-b56c7101c764/B7B3674EFB12D933EA4A2B97C7405DD4.10-24-22-cpc-letter-for-diplomacy-on-russia-ukraine-conflict.pdf
"the abuser" in this situation is objectively the united states since they
- supported the destruction of the USSR under gorbachev which resulted in Ukraine and Russia becoming politically separated and reactionary
- funded the campaign of yeltsin who privatized the USSR, resulting in massive poverty in the former soviet countries and the influx of foreign capital
- couped ukraine in 2014, installing yatsenyuk and poroshenko, who integrated anti-Russian nazis into the armed forces, shelled Donetsk, started a civil war, and took out huge IMF loans
- interfered with peace negotiations
- forced escalation of this war by selling weapons
- destroyed nord stream 2
Why are you posting cringe LaRouchite takes on a silly video?
context
The people that heckled AOC as being pro-war were not anti-war. The 2 hecklers were pro-russia, one of them was a LaRouchite and the other was a patsoc infrared haz guy. You can find both of their profiles on twitter.
This is how AOC responded to the incident. She says that she's not prowar, that she has voted to increase the US defense budget 0 times.
https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/kapDIcl5yB.jpg
She isn't pro-war she just voted in favor of extending a war by arming the side that has never had any chance of winning the war. She can say what ever she likes but her voting records prove otherwise. She has also voted in favor of giving weapons to the nation illegally occupying Palestine.
Just look at EU right now, slowly fall into fascism since their "social democrat" are out of touch with reality and hit working class with unreasonable hike in cost of living.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022145
368 Yea (219 Democrats, 149 Republicans), 57 Nay (0 Democrats, 57 Republicans)
Blaming AOC specifically is still a cringe LaRouchite take considering 100% of the Democrats voted for the bill and no other politician was targeted in the same way. The only reason that AOC is specifically brought up in this instance is because LaRouchites and Patsocs are reactionary and they target AOC because she is more progressive than other US politicians. The only people that voted against the bill were reactionary, pro-war Republicans.
AOC would have been the only Democrat to vote against it, it wouldn't have changed whether the bill passed, and she would have received much more backlash. AOC does not have the power to make any meaningful difference in this situation.
uuh, nah. You don't let's the nut job fascist take the anti war line, ever. It's pathetic, she and the squad shouldn't tow the establishment line that they rails against
When LaRouchites and Patsocs says they are antiwar, they are lying. You are choosing to believe that. That says something about you, not everyone else.
You know they're lying, then you should go take the anti war stance too and call them out for not being honest, they want to divert resources to facing China, unless you pro war and want to risk nuclear conflict?
then you should go take the anti war stance too and call them out for not being honest
That is what she did, yes. I posted the screenshot in my earlier post.
Didn't see anything yet, mostly her votes including the squad are straight prolong the war.
Annexing? The were negotiate in March for minks 2, who break the negotiations huh? Not only that, one dude from Ukraine side got assassinate because the dude want to "compromise". If you want to prolong this war, then Eastern Ukraine will be annex, Putin already stated it, and I don't think he's joking.
The way you are talking is not antiwar. You're just saying Putin should do whatever he wants or else he'll use nukes. Russia already tried to annex Ukraine and the UN voted overwhelming against it. Not even China voted in favor of Russia annexing Ukraine. Being antiwar doesn't mean being pro-russia or vice-versa.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129492
China not voted in favor of Russia for annexing Ukraine, but they didn't condemn them either for the war, so is the global south. They all tell them to seek diplomatic solution, which is the Minks 2, not a dogmatic solution that the Washington is pushing right now of dumping billions of dollars ( When their economy in tatter and working class need help) and weapons (which probably land in terrorist hands), killing the EU at the same times which give rise to the far right and fascism. The best time to end the war is on March/April when the two sides negotiate, then one fat clown from UK visited and the Ukrainian for some reason have to consult Washington during the negotiations.
I swear I cannot tell if people legit dont know about Minsk 2 or are just being obtuse
Anti war means supporting the most sure road to peace. Russia tried to negotiate peace with the Minsk agreements but Ukraine broke those agreements. There was no peace down that road. Russia agreeing to the LPR and DNR's request to join Russia is the surest way to stop the fighting.
Like how LGBTQI+ support has become synonymous with wester capitalist hegemony in the non wester world. LGBTQI+ orgs in the global south and east are all shunned because they are supported by worst people in the world.
:jesse-wtf: This is fascist talking points. You're just saying fascist things now. Fascists say that they are anti-LGBT because global elites support LGBT. If there are people in the global south who are anti-LGBT, it's because they have reactionary beliefs, not because the west supports LGBT.
Highlighting the hypocrisy of AOC is a way to radicalize people who voted for her to look farther left and give up on the Dems.
You have never talked to an American. Everyone already shits on AOC and it does not move anyone further Left. The libs shit on AOC. The chuds shit on AOC. In fact, Fox News already made a segment blaming the entire Ukraine War on AOC, it was the same segment that they mentioned Chapo Trap House. Do you think Fox News is pushing people to the Left? You could not be more wrong. Americans are reactionary by default, shitting on what they perceive to be a Left person is going to only make them more reactionary.
The reactionary mind set is a natural state and not necessarily bad.
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Putin is basically my gross grandfather who made me rub his feet at christmas.
:expert-shapiro: Let me know when she rubs her feet on the microphone.
Knowing the US, this might actually be more effective than most other DNC plays. Not necessarily enough, but more effective.
