HeavenlyPossum (@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social)
kolektiva.social
States don’t have rights. International law exists to serve the interests of the states that authored that law, not your interests. Stop mistaking a state’s interests for yours. They’re not and will never be the same.

Maybe it isn't about good/bad, maybe consider anti-imperialism?

(An anarchist account from Masto that has quite the following so posting here, but without links.)

Edit. Added a link to the thread because it keeps getting boosted to my timeline by Western "leftists" and I think it deserves to be dunked on.

  • bleepbloopbop [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    Same person is out here advocating for the US intervening in Ukraine the same way they helped israel shoot down iranian drones. Or maybe that's supposed to be some sort of irony. Regardless it would cause more suffering than this iranian strike ever could

    More bangers include (paraphrasing):

    • "Hamas and israel should just both disband and be tried for their crimes" (no mention of how this can be achieved).
    • "Israel’s military conflict with Hamas is happening in parallel to Israel’s genocide, but they're unrelated"

    its just such powerful idealism. Like I'm with them, mostly, morally, but all I can see is them disavowing absolutely any mechanism for actually achieving any of those moral outcomes besides "spontaneous self organization of the working class", and I'm not convinced they wouldn't find a way to disavow that too as soon as it formed an organization or made any decision they disagree with.

    If anything the iranian strike was perfectly tailored to beat this argument of "well it was just iran lobbing drones and missiles at the israeli working class" because they weren't. They targeted only military installations, effectively zero civilian effect besides stress.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      But also, tried for war crimes by whom? Can’t be another state or collection of them because they just said their right do anything don’t real and is an artifice. The direct democratic will of the decentralized working class in a post-state society? Well, if that was the ultimate political body of the global socio-economic system then we’d be in a situation where Israel and Hamas were already non-entities so there’d be no trial to be had.

      Which sums up the issue with this sort of approach to geopolitics, the solution to the problem is based on having a system in which the problem categorically cannot exist, but with no road map to get to that system; how do they propose we get there from here?