EDIT: LINK - https://reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/yodmju/i_really_thought_this_was_a_brilliant_satire_at/

The uber-cool techbro is in the comments giving us such gems as:

I stand by what I said. People will implement it soon, if they haven’t already. Aesthetic rating networks are a thing, and image generators are capable of combinatorial generalization, so it’s probably possible to use search (or maybe even gradient descent) to find images that are better than the ones in the training set (according to the metric), and then train it with those. The success of these techniques depends on the critic not being goodharted, so the results might be inferior to training it with human-curated data, but that is more expensive. Is there any flaw in this reasoning?

When asked what in the living hell is an “aesthetic rating network” he replied:

Take a set of prompts. Generate many images for each. Select the best ones according to the network as long as they are sufficiently realistic (according to the generator or other net) and still match the prompt. Finetune on those. Or something like that

My criteria for best image is whatever someone considers the best image. This varies between people, but models can take this into account. Other areas of art (all of them?) also follow the pattern of there being a data structure that people can prefer over others, and optimizing it is a problem that machines will eventually basically solve.

I’m not mistaken. People have preferences over trajectories reality can take. Part of that considers whether what they see is pretty (but obviously art is about more than that). If you want to solve art (or understand it properly at all) you need access to that rating function. You can do it by either studying the brain directly or by observing human behavior (like the score they give to an image) and fitting a model to reconstruct that part of their minds. I’m pretty sure the vast majority of artists don’t think about art this way, but that’s how you study it in mathematical terms.

:chefs-kiss:

I love techbrains. They’re so unused. Completely fresh and wrinkle-free.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Technology already solved art?? It's called a camera. You can take a picture of something and get an image much faster than someone could paint it, and it'll be more accurate too. That's why no art has been made in the past 200 years or so.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Actually quantum mechanics proofed that you can't actually do art as any photograph or capture of something does change and thus alter its state, replication of the exact conditions on the macroscopic level of humans being impossible that way.

      Also art is exactly about replicating things or displaying them slightly altered. /s

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        One time I saw "art" of a horse where it had wings. A horse with wings. If you're going to spend that much time drawing something, maybe do some basic research into the subject matter, like have they ever seen a horse? They don't have wings (obviously lol), but they're also super heavy and not aerodynamic at all so even if they had them they wouldn't be functional. The wings were super detailed too, they could've saved a ton of time and effort if the artist just like, knew anything about horses or basic physics.

        • Farman [any]
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          2 years ago

          Since a horse is fundamentally just an equilayeral triangle maybe if you fold her a certain way iy will be more aerodynamic?

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Horses are equilateral triangles filled with water. Maybe if you could find a way to replace their bodily fluids with something lighter... hey do you wanna invest in a startup?

            • Farman [any]
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              2 years ago

              But how much of those fluids are just filler? Maybe our startup can remove some, streamlining the horse.

      • UlyssesT
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        2 months ago

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        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          On the one hand, if these AI models get better at making big bazonga anime waifus i would feel better about the poor human artists who used to be comissioned to make them before.

          On the other hand, many of these artists rely on thirsty comissions to pay the bills, so idk.

          • Rem [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            The solution, as always, is communism

            • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Under a communist society, would we devote resources to training/maintaining AIs that are able to perpetuate harmful, objectifying images?

              I'm legit asking, because I feel like it would be like banning brushes or typewriters kind of paranoid, fascist censorship levels, and ideally we wouldn't have people coming up with these ideas in the first place, but it is still a mental experiment i kind of struggle with.