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  • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    “The guy who thinks Marx was wrong” idk who you’re talking about

    lol

    Theories of imperialism after Marx like Lenin

    Why did Lenin consider Russia to be imperialist? It didn't export capital and himself described it as "a country most backward economically, where modern capitalist imperialism is enmeshed, so to speak, in a particularly close network of pre-capitalist relations." Was Lenin not following his own definition?

    I’d sum up how I feel about this a bit by saying that the best outcome now in the short term would be a negotiated peace

    And that I'd agree with

    create opportunities for the global south to develop free from their domination.

    Liberating the global south from the oppression of foreign-aligned national bourgeoisie by replacing it with the oppression of regular national bourgeoisie, classic

    I like how this whole discussion began when I said people shouldn't be disregarding class analysis in favor of thinking solely in terms of national struggle, and the response has been people that think of countries as homogenous entities telling me about which nation to vouch for :galaxy-brain:

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    Imperialism is an inevitability of capitalism, but it’s not an inevitability in every capitalist country

    Huh?

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Why did Lenin consider Russia to be imperialist?

      Was Lenin not following his own definition?

      It’s a good point and I’ve just replied to your other comment about it, but my understanding is that Lenin’s definition described a new type of imperialism. Tsarist Russia was an empire in the sense of the word that well predates Lenin, not in the sense of the word that he was the first to describe. Modern Russia really doesn’t count as either IMO.

      Liberating the global south from the oppression of foreign-aligned national bourgeoisie by replacing it with the oppression of regular national bourgeoisie, classic

      It’s sort of classic. I mean, you have to do both things and hopefully you could do away with both groups at once, but you can never throw off the bourgeoisie without throwing off the imperialists. Mao and others realized that for the colonized, the principal contradiction is imperialism.