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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

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Deeply unserious people

  • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    Yes, we can absolutely criticize the DSA for actions it's members do, especially while part of an official delegation.

    Just disband if you don't want to be an accountable organization.

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      I left after a number of years being deeply engaged in it because of this and I think their failure to have even rudimentary ideological unity is what has led to their current crisis.

      • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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        7 months ago

        Props comrade. All our groups draw circles around what we think are appropriate ideas to be a member of an org, but when you don't practice democratic centralism, and just let anyone break the rules at any time because "freedom", it doesn't build much trust or faith from the public, who are expecting a group even more disciplined and consistent than the current leaders to run things.

        It might be possible for a big tent org to do this, but DSA has probably more members of the selfish individualist liberal orientation than not.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Way to miss their point. They aren’t saying the DSA should disband, they are saying they should shape up and act like an actual accountable organization with internal discipline.

        Official delegates are representatives. They represent the organization. Stop squirming out of it

          • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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            7 months ago

            No actually I think the entire DSA org should disband if they can't keep their members from denouncing people they're on a diplomatic mission to visit, or meeting with anti-communist opposition groups, without being censured or suspended.

            If members aren't accountable for anything they do even while on an official visit, then no one is going to trust them in the slightest.

            • Maoo [none/use name]
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              7 months ago

              This is why DSA libs eventually get themselves disinvited from the planning (and sometimes participation) of actions. They reveal that they cannot be trusted.