my dad took me when I was a little kid, probably part of a heterosexualizing intervention that I'd grow up straight for once. I had a hotdog.

Strip clubs serve food. Can you imagine the kind of beta you'd have to be to eat at a hooters if you could go to a strip club?

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Can you imagine the kind of beta you’d have to be to eat at a hooters if you could go to a strip club?

    That reminds me of how there's all these sort of "not-porn" porn things where it's explicitly salacious and creepy but stops short of actually being porn, and how fucking creepy that is. Like how there's a whole trope of suburban dads getting women's underwear catalogs to whack it to, there's even a Kelly comic lambasting that and the entitlement they feel about needing the models to be attractive to them.

    Like hooters it all just seems so much creepier to me. It feels like their target audience is men who so oversexualize women that just being reminded that women exist and have bodies gets them going. Like the modern equivalent of the 19th century men who thought women wearing pants was "scandalous" because it reminded them than women have legs. It's so disturbing to me that there are so many men on that kind of a hair trigger.

    But then I also primarily socialize in queer spaces where explicit openness about lewd things is normalized to the point that I "ironically" respond with :volcel-judge::volcel-police: memes, so this may also just be me associating the hyper-vanilla not-porn stuff with cishet brainworms and chauvinism.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don't know about that explicit stuff can be too much stimulus too fast to take in sometimes the suggestion can be more interesting than being blatent. Like how flirting is more interesting than a nude

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I don't know, examining it from another angle: in kink spaces one of the most important standards is not pushing your kink on others or showing it off without the consent of everyone involved, including spectators, and overwhelmingly the people who frequently violate that are people whose thing is something that's less overtly sexual, like feet guys or age players. And I can't help but lump the sort of intensely oversexed heterosexuality in with that sort of thing, like their kink is just women having bodies so some guys feel like it's ok to have content catering to that kink everywhere and flaunt how much they're getting off to a woman over her existing and it's just ugh.

        It's hard to untangle and articulate what about it is so offputting to me because it's so many intersecting things and it's tangled up in stuff like seeing 4chan weirdos censoring the clothes out of pictures of fully clothed women, leaving just circles showing off faces and bits of arm or the like to imply nudity, and how omnipresent this tepid cishet sexualized content is, and how normal it is for pop culture jokes to just be "haha, normal male sexuality is whacking it to the FB photos of every single woman they know isn't that safe and quirky and normal" and I hate every bit of it. But I mean I also don't trust more overtly sex-obsessed cishet men either, like a guy who goes to stripclubs is just as bad as one who goes to hooters, but the concept is at least less weird and repressed even though I hate it too.

        Maybe it's more that I just hate cisheteronormative patriarchal sexualization and everything that goes along with it, and find the most socially acceptable forms of that more grating just because of how omnipresent they are while still being extremely creepy and predatory.