Don’t even know what it’s about yet

EDIT: I know what it’s about now. My mother is very proud

  • 420stalin69
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    2 years ago

    This shit

    https://titleknown.tumblr.com/post/158830082972/jonjafarifanclub-dicksweredinner-hey-yall

    Last I heard we cancelled him for this shit

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Last I heard we cancelled him for this shit

      who is "we"? What is "cancelled"? weird how you started a conversation with

      Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get

      then revealed that you actually know way more about him than the rest of us because you keep up with the tiresome breadtube drama

    • regul [any]
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      2 years ago

      Oh I thought you were saying Hbomb sexually harassed someone.

      • 420stalin69
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        2 years ago

        That was actually my memory of it, some discord sexual harassment because my memory was vague, but actually no it was supporting a friend accused of sexual assault just because he was a friend and using his position within the community to suppress allegations of sexual harassment.

        So not Harvey Weinstein shit but still that same Hollywood shit of using power to suppress knowledge of Harvey Weinstein. That’s what he did, Lindsey Lohan rising to the defense of Harvey Weinstein. A Ben Affleck who knew about it but used his power to protect it.

        If those are his instincts then we should have cancelled him harder.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I read your tumblr thing and his friend was accused of potentially having planned a sexual assault and then reacting with invective when the woman backed out at a red flag. That is not the same thing as having done a sexual assault as this allegation is primarily about what someone might have but ultimately never had an opportunity to do. There is a degree of guesswork involved.

          Very obviously someone backing out due to red flags is valid and them not wanting to interact with the creepy person especially after they called them a bitch is equally valid. But might have wanted to and did are not things that can be casually conflated

    • dead [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      https://web.archive.org/web/20170416083507/https://hbomberguy.tumblr.com/post/159210444691/an-apology

      This is the apology that he posted.

      • 420stalin69
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        2 years ago

        Apologizing after the angry mob let’s you know you’re wrong doesn’t mean shit. That’s just PR.

        • VenetianMask [any]
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          2 years ago

          okay then how do you think apologies should work. they should be made before finding out people are upset by something you've done?

          • 420stalin69
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            2 years ago

            It should happen at an early stage, when presented with wrong doing and you’ve had a moment to reflect then you recognize bad behavior and apologize.

            Instead of waiting for it to threaten your commercial interests then apologizing.

            It’s just so fucking easy to have the “correct” opinions on things if you wait for the direction of community opinion to be firmly established, which summarizes basically his entire career if we are being honest about it.

            His apology would have been meaningful if it happened before outrage in the community threatened to eject him from his privileged position within it.

            Do you think apology’s are meaningful when they only come after intense backlash or do you think that’s called covering your ass like a coward?

            • regul [any]
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              2 years ago

              Social pressure is how we impose correct behavior on people.

              For independent creators, social pressure and financial pressure are identical. There is no lag between the two during which he could have met your timeline for apologizing.

              • 420stalin69
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                2 years ago

                There was lag there was indeed lag. The apology took a while. His cancelling began and only with the financial threat did he have his change of heart, you’re wrong to assert that the issue was not brought to his attention before the financial threat emerged. Straight up not true.

                And I mean fuck that abstraction. It was not merely imposing correct behavior like a simple rule. It was regarding his use of power to protect a friend accused of sexual assault.

                That’s not some minor issue requiring rectification. That’s a red line.

                • regul [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  By your post, it seems like it was sexual harassment, not assault.

                  He seemed sincere to me in the initial DMs (even if his instincts were wrong) and in the apology. It's enough for me; it's not enough for you.