Don’t even know what it’s about yet

EDIT: I know what it’s about now. My mother is very proud

  • 420stalin69
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    2 years ago

    Back in my day leftists didn’t support people like this.

    Honestly I hadn’t heard about this guy in 5 years and I’m actually shocked you’re all supporting him.

    And the defense is “it was just one time” as though that’s a defense.

    What’s wrong with you all? The YouTube popularity contest has given you brain worms.

    • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      What are you on about? I just said that all parties have moved on, and you won't achieve anything by bringing it back up. If you want to complain about him, go back to r/Breadtube. I believe his videos are still banned from there.

      Edit: looks like they haven't been banned from there for a good few years actually, but they definitely were for a while.

      • 420stalin69
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        2 years ago

        Rare Reddit W over hexbear in that case

        Shameful

        • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          K then, leave. Also, it's worth pointing out that this piece of internet drama was the first thing you saw when you opened up the Kiwifarms page on Hbomb. It's an ad-hom arguement I know, but when those guys bring that incident as a way of justifying their harassment of him, it should make you think twice about using it yourself. Unless you're a wrecker, which at this point I'm fairly sure you are.

          • 420stalin69
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            2 years ago

            So far the arguments I’ve seen here are what you admit is a pure ad hom and you write it anyway, “it was just one time”, and “wrecker” or some variant of that which is a personal attack that intentionally avoids the issue.

            So all shit arguments. Garbage.

            Shameful defense of this behavior which should never be defended.

            Shame on you.

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get

              this is how you started the conversation. what are we supposed to be angry at again?

              • 420stalin69
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                2 years ago

                I’ll end this conversation but I’m not so petty as to assume everyone on this site is as comfortable with sexual assault as you are.

                Even though you pretend to speak for them you actually only speak for yourself.

                Rather I think it’s more likely you are refusing to treat this particular person as you would others because you enjoy his content which is a specifically individual flaw in you that I won’t ascribe to others.

                Hopefully you reconsider your approach since what you’re doing here is exactly what Hollywood did to Harvey Weinstein.

                Zero tolerance is the only correct approach. Hopefully you learn that once you’ve had the chance to reflect.

                • Hoyt [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  watching a youtuber's videos is the same as an agent sending women to be sexually assaulted by weinstein lol

                  what do you wanna do buddy send a hit squad to his house

                  • 420stalin69
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                    2 years ago

                    I expect zero tolerance towards people who use their power to suppress allegations of sexual assault.

                    That’s a pretty straightforward expectation.

                    The Hollywood shit is the code of silence that emerges because these people are put on a pedestal which is precisely what you are all doing here right now. You’re willing to condone the unacceptable because of a YouTube / streamer popularity contest.

                    Shameful.

                    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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                      2 years ago

                      you started the conversation like this:

                      Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get

                      then didn't mention "suppressing allegations" until way further down. Maybe you should begin a conversation by saying what you're actually upset about .

                      • 420stalin69
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                        2 years ago

                        It was like my 3rd comment actually but the mass of replies reorders things.

                        Maybe if you gamers read the replies before deciding to jump on the bandwagon of defending their favorite streamer it wouldn’t be such a confusing thread.

                            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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                              2 years ago
                              1. what are these allegations

                              2. against whom were these allegations

                              3. who was the friend he protected

                              4. was anyone ever taken to court and found guilty of anything

                              not all of us keeps up with the stuff you personally remember

                              EDIT: also nothing was reordered comments work like this

                              top comment

                              reply

                              reply to reply

                              the only top comment you have in this thread is "Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get"

                              everything else is a reply to that or you replying to someone. Why would the first comment anyone reads of yours ITT be a reply to an older comment?

                              • 420stalin69
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                                2 years ago

                                Look I’m not going to debate you about how comments are or should be ordered I’m just saying if your complaint here is “I didn’t bother reading the comments before joining the mob” that doesn’t actually say anything about me it only says something about you.

                                • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  I didn't join a mob. you said it was "like my 3rd comment" but everything else you have said In this thread is newer. The oldest comment from you in this thread is 3 hours old and is that one where you began the conversation by saying he was a sexist, that you hadn't watched anything of his, and that it was "just a vibe." It would have helped to begin the conversation by saying you were upset about sexual assault allegations against his friend that he defended, rather than making that clear way later.

                                  also you still haven't specified who this friend is, what the allegations were, who was making the allegations, or whether anything came of those allegations. expecting everyone else to be mad about something they haven't necessarily even heard about is odd. Especially when you begin the conversation by pretending you don't know anything about the person, and then reveal later that you actually know a ton of negative stuff nobody else remembers.

                                  • 420stalin69
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                                    2 years ago

                                    Ok noted thank you for the feedback

                                    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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                                      2 years ago

                                      i just want to know more about the context of these allegations you brought up.

                                      • 420stalin69
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                                        2 years ago

                                        Here you go with more added because your request is indeed a fair one

                                        http://titleknown.tumblr.com/post/158830082972/jonjafarifanclub-dicksweredinner-hey-yall

                                        https://i.imgur.com/G6zkiBg.png

                                        https://archive.is/tfn53

                    • Hoyt [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      to be clear your "zero tolerance" policy is just not watching his videos

                      • 420stalin69
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                        2 years ago

                        That’s part of it sure.

                        Watching his vids and promoting them certainly isn’t zero tolerance.

                        Nor is attacking those who call him out on it. That’s downright defending it. Shameful.

                          • 420stalin69
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                            2 years ago

                            I added that the bit where you gamer chuds attack those who call him out on his part use of power to suppress sexual assault is defending that.

                            So the other part would be to stop being a gamer chud who flies into a rage when your favorite YouTuber gets called out for atrociously poor behavior.

                            Stop defending this. Like for real, why are you ok with that and what does that say about you?

                            • Hoyt [he/him]
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                              2 years ago

                              im sure that if our media consumption is pure enough we'll get communism! I hope we've all learned our lesson and will never discuss anything made by anyone deemed problematic. keep fighting the good fight comrade

                              • 420stalin69
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                                2 years ago

                                You can insult and deride me for calling out a media personality for protecting sexual assault all you want, it just makes you a regular gamer chud.

                                • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  My man it’s not that. It’s that all parties have talked about this since then. Have all seemed to have reached some sort of understanding. And Harry had talked about, apolgozied, and most of all def seems to have taken it to heart and be better.

                                  It’s not like shit like the brigadore guy getting caught and dipping out till the heat was down. It’s not like Virgil who just left and never acknowledged, apologized, or even was seen again after his accusations came out. Actual growth and work to make things better happened.

                                  I understand where you are coming from and SA is never excusable. But we gotta be able to not blindly fall into every purity test and give credit when people show genuine growth.

                                  people grow, a lot of us here started as right leaning libertarians or worst. If we purity test everything we are gonna tear ourselves apart.

                • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  I appreciate that you're not responding to comments anymore, but I have had time to reflect, but I'd like to explain myself a bit further.

                  I already knew about the accusations you made in your original post, because I read about it a year or two ago. This meant that I also knew that the situation had already been resolved by the parties involved, first because of the apology (which I understand the victim didn't like or accept) and secondly because of the fact that the person who attacked the victim has long since been removed as a mod on Hbomb's Discord over this issue. I know that Harris' actions were wrong to start with and that he should have believed the victim, but given that the incident happened several years ago and that no new accusations had come out, I didn't and still don't see the need to 'cancel' him even more than he already was at the time.

                  I am also in no way comfortable with sexual assault, and agree that a zero tolreance approach is necessary; this is exactly the approach that was taken against him by plenty of people, and many of those people have since moved on, as I pointed out. You may disagree with this descision, as is your right, but that doesn't mean that the people who have done so are apologists for SA.