The right in the US - especially conservative Christians - are whipped up into a frenzy now over the thinking literally any acceptance or encouragement of trans kids is "grooming". And I think they've been able to accomplish this by taking the word "children" and completely warping it in order to create a narrative that is so incredibly divorced from reality.

So what's the reality regarding trans youth? I'm not an expert so comrades please correct me if I'm wrong but in the US it generally follows this shape:

  • Social transitioning for pre-pubescent youth (clothes, pronouns, etc). No medical interventions are done at this stage.

  • Puberty blockers at the onset of puberty (maybe right before? I'm not clear on this one).

  • Hormones can be taken after puberty blockers if the person eventually chooses. Puberty is different for everyone but I guess this would be around age 14 or 15? Specific ages I'm not sure about but we're not talking little kids here.

  • Then actual surgical interventions are pretty limited for under 18s. I think I've only really heard about top surgeries for trans men who are like 16 or 17. Of course cis teen women have long been able to get breast reduction surgeries and no one complains about that. But AFAIK that's about the extent of surgeries for under 18 folks - extremely limited, for good or ill.

So what has the right done? They've completely twisted this narrative into that doctors are performing bottom surgeries on like 5 year olds across the country. I once saw a meme that compared Boston Children's Hospital to the Island of Dr. Moreau. They are utterly convinced that every year there are thousands of little grade school age kids getting gender affirming surgeries. What they're actually doing is taking that very small number of surgeries done on older teens and putting it under the blanket of "children". The people who are leading this charge and might know better (like Matt Walsh) are purposefully pulling this little trick to try and get people enraged.

Not that hypocrisy ever mattered to the right, but I bet you these same people who talk about "children are being mutilated" will think it's super important to clarify "those aren't migrant children crossing the border! They're like 16, they're basically adults! The media calls them 'children' to gain sympathy!" Or encourage their 14 year olds to join ROTC and basically be the little Hitler Youth in order to pave the way to join the imperialist crusading US military at 18. Whatever.

And even when it's not about surgeries, the evangelicals especially talk about children being "tricked" into being trans. This is because theologically they have to believe that being trans isn't real. That being trans is not something inherent but is instead a trick of the devil.

And where are the libs to push back on all this? Of course they're silent. The left can push back as best we can but we simply don't have the numbers to try and show a significant push back (so far at least). The libs do have the numbers. They could be pointing out this little trick the transphobes are trying to pull with the word "children". They could point out the completely unscientific assumptions made by people who by and large think the universe is less than 10,000 years old and evolution is a lie. But no, they'd rather sit on their hands and pretend nothing's happening. Or that voting is the solution.

Goddamn liberals. We're on our own on this.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    it’s not like anyone, cis or trans, is ontologically a man or woman.

    I completely, 100% have to disagree. I am very definitely ontologically a woman. It is just that Woman is neither a category of biology (that would be "female") nor a social role (that would be "feminine"), it is rather an internal, psychological category relating to our sense of self. It is the frame of reference through which we perceive the entire rest of our gender experience, the relationship to our bodies, the gendered relationships to other human beings, our gender performance, the relation between our behavior and gendered expectations ("do i like this because i'm a man or do i like it in spite of being a girl?"), the framing of our sexual orientation ("am i a straight man or a lesbian woman?") and so on.

    Reducing gender to a two-fold model that just knows biological sex and gender as a social construct does not explain my experience at all, nor does it explain the experience of a majority of other trans people. It is beyond discussion to me that it is empirically non-viable. Focussing too much on a fleeting, socially constructed, idealist concept like gender performance is indeed a red herring when exploring one's gender, just as it is a mistake to get hung up on someting that can be changed just by hitting the right hormonal switches at the right moments like biology. To make sense of our lifes, especially that it is to us undeniably self-evident that we have never been our assigned gender at birth even when we supressed it and performed in a different gender role, in a body mismatched with our self, only makes sense when you treat woman or man or enbie as a seperate, internal category, everybody's "true self" so to speak. Otherwise, if i had a male body for most of my life and performed as a boy for most of my life, which i had and which i did, how could i always have been trans? I would have started being trans when my egg cracked, but not before, because under a two-dimensional biological + social model, 100% of the dimensions of my gender experience would have been manly. But they weren't. Neither my body nor my role as a boy ever fit me. Nothing in my life ever made sense, it was all a disparate jumble of struggling to fit a mold not made for me - and once i realised "oh, i'm just trans", all of that stopped. It just turned to dust. It could not offer the slightest resistance. Everything made sense by simply fitting in that missing puzzle piece that was my gender identity. This is a quite common experience for trans people who do not fall in the "i've always known, i refused to wear pants when i was just three years old and then i told mom it's a mistake by god that i have a weenie" category - lots of trans people do see their true self as early as that, lots of others don't and instead only come out later in life, but evidence clearly shows we're all equally valid.

    Not feeling that you even have a gender identity is ofc still possible - it is a logical conclusion for agender people where gender identity may just be a blank, it may also be a privilege of cis people who never had to think about this issue too hard because their gender identity, social gender role and biological sex are all more or less completely aligned from the start, or it may be a fairly typical train of thought for eggs who through their denial and repression lack a connection with their gender identity (the latter was me for a large part of my life).

    But if you want to explain everybody's gender experience - and a viable gender theory should do exactly that - you need more than the two dimensions of biology and social role. What i've outlined here is based on Leslie Feinberg's model, i've also seen five-fold models. But regardless of what you use, two-fold is always too simplistic, it is only an intermediary step up from bio-reductionist explanations like "gender is just your chromosomes".

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Neither my body nor my role as a boy ever fit me. Nothing in my life ever made sense, it was all a disparate jumble of struggling to fit a mold not made for me - and once i realised “oh, i’m just trans”, all of that stopped. It just turned to dust. It could not offer the slightest resistance. Everything made sense by simply fitting in that missing puzzle piece that was my gender identity.

      I hear stuff like this a lot from trans people I know as well.

      There was an early 20th century geneticist named Dobzhansky who was pivotal in building the "modern synthesis" of post-Mendelian genetics and Darwin's work on evolution. He claimed that "nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution," for it was evolution that transformed biology from a "pile of sundry facts" into a coherent, integrated theory that all fit together into a sensible whole.

      I tend to think about gender as something like that as well--a unifying hub that doesn't seem like much in isolation, but which binds together so many different aspects of our psychological and social identities that it's a thing that turns those identities from a "pile of sundry facts" to something that makes sense.

      That makes it real if anything is, it seems to me.