For context I was born a poor Egyptian and lived through the so-called Arab spring and personally saw murder and death. I’m not some coddled imperialist, and I feel like I have a better connection to life than the comfortable yanks
congrats on dodging the myriad mental illnesses you could've caught from that trauma. do you have an effective clinical treatment for major depression or just survivorship bias?
anyway, the ratio as previously described should not be acceptable to people, and to me it sounds exactly like liberal "know your place" kinda shit to say it is.
Who said it should be acceptable? You are drawing all kinds of conclusions I never said.
For me, life is always worth experiencing regardless of said “ratio”. That’s an entirely separate issue of how we ought to arrange society or what standards we should accept
I fundamentally reject such crude utilitarian calculuses of life as Malthusian and not life affirming. This type of utilitarian calculus is what leads to Canada euthanizing all of its mentally ill population
Palestinians in Gaza are experiencing hell, and facing it bravely. Should they all commit suicide to escape their “bad ratios”? Should they flee to another country and let the Zionists win since it would improve their own lives? Should they cease to have children when they may face bad ratios?
There is more to life than pleasure and pain. Sometimes we need optimism and faith and collective purpose.
The Palestinians who die in battle are glorious martyrs. There's no undue "romanticization" they are heroes beyond anything you or I could ever accomplish. Maybe you can't see this in your malthusian calculus, and that's why you would never understand their resilience or be able to do it yourself.
It’s obviously horrible that they are experiencing genocide, the mindset they have that allows them to endure it is a revolutionary spirit that your antinatalist Malthusian cynicism could never create. I’m asking you to please think like a Palestinian with optimism. Should they stop having kids cause bad ratios? Doesn’t your defeatism assist the genocide? Should the Palestinians not have revolutionary faith and optimism despite all odds?
that's a rather 19th century view of conflict. the framework that culminated in world war 1. I expect that ideology from the colonizers doing the genocide not from us who condemn them.
there's no honor in fighting, only a tragedy that some of us have no other choice.
There’s no honor in fighting against the Zionist entity? You want to come and say those fighting words to my face godless westoid? Maybe consider the lack of bravery, revolutionary faith, optimism and honor as some of the primary problems with the failed western left (along with the social-chauvinism of course).
Your namesake had honor and faith and did what was right despite it ending his family. You are a bit of a hypocrite here. The one good American cracker proves my point. John Brown had an intuitive understanding of his place in the world, the equality between all beings that had to be brought about, his role in the spirit of revolution. He did not follow pleasure and pain but a revolutionary faith.
your point is severely undermined by the fact that people of faith were also on the other side of the conflict, using their mystical beliefs to uphold and defend the institution.
if we're honest, the one good cracker was a stopped clock.
There were millions of liberal abolitionist reformists and not one of them had what it took to spark the necessary revolution. Only the one with an irrational faith took that step
unironically, yes.
For context I was born a poor Egyptian and lived through the so-called Arab spring and personally saw murder and death. I’m not some coddled imperialist, and I feel like I have a better connection to life than the comfortable yanks
congrats on dodging the myriad mental illnesses you could've caught from that trauma. do you have an effective clinical treatment for major depression or just survivorship bias?
Oh I have all kinds of mental illnesses you obviously don’t follow my posting notoriety do you?
i don't really retain usernames, reddit habit.
anyway, the ratio as previously described should not be acceptable to people, and to me it sounds exactly like liberal "know your place" kinda shit to say it is.
Who said it should be acceptable? You are drawing all kinds of conclusions I never said.
For me, life is always worth experiencing regardless of said “ratio”. That’s an entirely separate issue of how we ought to arrange society or what standards we should accept
I fundamentally reject such crude utilitarian calculuses of life as Malthusian and not life affirming. This type of utilitarian calculus is what leads to Canada euthanizing all of its mentally ill population
Palestinians in Gaza are experiencing hell, and facing it bravely. Should they all commit suicide to escape their “bad ratios”? Should they flee to another country and let the Zionists win since it would improve their own lives? Should they cease to have children when they may face bad ratios?
There is more to life than pleasure and pain. Sometimes we need optimism and faith and collective purpose.
suppose it's only fair that you take a turn at drawing conclusions i never said, and it's absolutely wild to romanticize getting genocided.
The Palestinians who die in battle are glorious martyrs. There's no undue "romanticization" they are heroes beyond anything you or I could ever accomplish. Maybe you can't see this in your malthusian calculus, and that's why you would never understand their resilience or be able to do it yourself.
It’s obviously horrible that they are experiencing genocide, the mindset they have that allows them to endure it is a revolutionary spirit that your antinatalist Malthusian cynicism could never create. I’m asking you to please think like a Palestinian with optimism. Should they stop having kids cause bad ratios? Doesn’t your defeatism assist the genocide? Should the Palestinians not have revolutionary faith and optimism despite all odds?
that's a rather 19th century view of conflict. the framework that culminated in world war 1. I expect that ideology from the colonizers doing the genocide not from us who condemn them.
there's no honor in fighting, only a tragedy that some of us have no other choice.
There’s no honor in fighting against the Zionist entity? You want to come and say those fighting words to my face godless westoid? Maybe consider the lack of bravery, revolutionary faith, optimism and honor as some of the primary problems with the failed western left (along with the social-chauvinism of course).
honor and a bowl of soup will fill your belly. a lack of idealism isn't anyone's problem.
Your namesake had honor and faith and did what was right despite it ending his family. You are a bit of a hypocrite here. The one good American cracker proves my point. John Brown had an intuitive understanding of his place in the world, the equality between all beings that had to be brought about, his role in the spirit of revolution. He did not follow pleasure and pain but a revolutionary faith.
your point is severely undermined by the fact that people of faith were also on the other side of the conflict, using their mystical beliefs to uphold and defend the institution.
if we're honest, the one good cracker was a stopped clock.
There were millions of liberal abolitionist reformists and not one of them had what it took to spark the necessary revolution. Only the one with an irrational faith took that step