smart stuff is a bad idea as computers aren't very reliable and it's a grill what fucking advantage is there in it being able to connect to the wifi.
you want to be able to turn it on when you put things into it and turn it off when you take them out. Both steps require your physical presence. Making a grill smart is just bazinga nonsense
Did you read what I said? It should never interfere with regular functionality. Done right, the "smart" part could be completely fried but the grill still works. If that's not the case, then it's not a good smart device. But it's entirely possible to make that.
I did read what you said but I don't believe that's a feasible expectation of anything the consumer tech industry would put out. I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven
Did you read it all, because right after that I said:
Of course most companies don’t care about that.
I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven
It depends on what you mean by "improve". Smart devices are mainly to provide convenience not to make it do its job better.
A smart oven/grill would let you change the temperature from anywhere, set it to preheat before even getting to it (imagine preheating your oven while on your train ride home from work, so it's ready as soon as you get home), check the current temperature, check if it's off or turn it off for peace of mind if you think you forgot to turn it off, etc.
None of that is necessary, but it's convenient. And as long as it can't interfere with normal operation, it's fine.
I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps and to deal with the issues that come with connecting a device to a network. That would be one thing if it was a device that would benefit significantly from the data management or math capabilities of a computer. But in the case of an oven it's just silly
if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn't make sense to add.
A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse
I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps
The smart part would be a temperature sensor, a connection to the spark, and a potentiometer or something to control the temp. The regular old button for the spark would be connected in parallel so it still works if the computer is down. Similar for the knob. Absolutely no interference with regular operation, so the extra complexity doesn't matter.
if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn’t make sense to add.
But the spoon would still work if the chip died. That's my point.
A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse
It is, but who cares. If you don't think it's useful to you don't get it.
Smart stuff can be cool, but the number one rule is it should never interfere with "dumb" functionality.
Of course most companies don't care about that.
smart stuff is a bad idea as computers aren't very reliable and it's a grill what fucking advantage is there in it being able to connect to the wifi.
you want to be able to turn it on when you put things into it and turn it off when you take them out. Both steps require your physical presence. Making a grill smart is just bazinga nonsense
Did you read what I said? It should never interfere with regular functionality. Done right, the "smart" part could be completely fried but the grill still works. If that's not the case, then it's not a good smart device. But it's entirely possible to make that.
I did read what you said but I don't believe that's a feasible expectation of anything the consumer tech industry would put out. I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven
Did you read it all, because right after that I said:
It depends on what you mean by "improve". Smart devices are mainly to provide convenience not to make it do its job better.
A smart oven/grill would let you change the temperature from anywhere, set it to preheat before even getting to it (imagine preheating your oven while on your train ride home from work, so it's ready as soon as you get home), check the current temperature, check if it's off or turn it off for peace of mind if you think you forgot to turn it off, etc.
None of that is necessary, but it's convenient. And as long as it can't interfere with normal operation, it's fine.
I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps and to deal with the issues that come with connecting a device to a network. That would be one thing if it was a device that would benefit significantly from the data management or math capabilities of a computer. But in the case of an oven it's just silly
if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn't make sense to add.
A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse
The smart part would be a temperature sensor, a connection to the spark, and a potentiometer or something to control the temp. The regular old button for the spark would be connected in parallel so it still works if the computer is down. Similar for the knob. Absolutely no interference with regular operation, so the extra complexity doesn't matter.
But the spoon would still work if the chip died. That's my point.
It is, but who cares. If you don't think it's useful to you don't get it.
I wasn't saying people who buy it are dumb and bad I am saying that as a technological movement I do not like the trend it is leading technology down
Surveillance and marketing data. :stonks-up: