I'm mostly, but not exclusively, referring to Kanye West. I don't humor the "Ye" thing because as part of his god complex he started using it because he saw the King James version of the Bible and its abundant use of "Ye" as directly speaking to him. That's not the only example; in fact unless I grossly misheard one of the "good" tracks that was recommended to me, Kanye West outright says "I'M A GOD" in it.

Yes yes eccentric genius and all of that. I don't like god complexes, no matter how rich and famous someone gets. I don't grant eccentric genius passes for them and sometimes I wonder why almost everyone else seems to. :doomer:

  • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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    I think god complex or atleast narcissism is something that comes with being really good at art. Imagine a bunch of people saying youre great everyday, if just makes you have a healthy self-esteem, great, but I find it often goes past that into the "I'm better than you" territory.

    My more personal theory is that being good at art is a lot of chasing what you "like." Who's better at deciding what they like and what is thr best than a narcissist? I think people without this trait are open to explore new things or question why they like something which in turn slows down progression in a specific area.

    For me, its never a surprise that musicians start coming out to be freaks.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      I think people without this trait are open to explore new things or question why they like something which in turn slows down progression in a specific area.

      Outside of entertainment, narcissists seem to slow down progress more often than not because if it doesn't glorify themselves, they will sabotage it. See what :my-hero: did to wreck mass transit endeavors in California alone.

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        narcissists seem to slow down progress more often than not because if it doesn’t glorify themselves, they will sabotage it

        Also see the most recent Chapo episode for discussion on that

      • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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        I already elaborated what I meant with my comment but I mean with Musk you can argue that he perceives hes really good at it.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      I disagree. I've had the privilege of knowing some truly accomplished professors who were at the bleeding edge of their respective fields. One thing they all had in common was humility enough to be aware there was a lot they did not know and still much to learn.

      Maybe it's different for musicians; wasn't my bunch in college.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          that comes with being really good at something

          I was responding to that part. It seemed very open ended.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If we're only talking about musicians, Masayoshi Soken made some amazing stuff for Final Fantasy XIV and as far as I know doesn't have a god complex. Some eccentricity, sure, but a class act overall.

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        But you don't actually know the guy. He could be an absolute asshole in real life. He could be great of course too. I've met many musicians without zero percent humility or only express humility as a humble brag/religious expression because theyre jerks irl.

        Not all great musicians are assholes but I've noticed how weird people and disconnected people get when they start emerging in the field.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Maybe. I already left open that possibility. I do know he hasn't done any "IMMA LET YOU FINISH" moments, doesn't announce himself as a god in his music, and isn't setting up a "SokenSystem" cult compound.

          • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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            Hahaha no but thatd be tight because I dont think Kanye was ever good enough to warrant his ego.