Is there really a large contingent of people who draw their line between "Death to America," and, "Unlimited genocide of the first world ?" I've never encountered such a person until today.
"Death to America" pops up in the real world occasionally, "unlimited genocide" is entirely online from what I know. Stuff that's edgy and exclusively online should be closely scrutinized.
There's also a pretty justifiable explanation for anyone who goes at "death to America": it's a call for the U.S. empire to be defeated; it's referring to the state, not the people. It's the same thing as saying Israel doesn't have a right to exist -- there's a clear line between talking about state governments vs. the whole population.
Genocide, on the other hand, can't credibly be read as "oh I'm not talking about the people, just the state."
There's also a pretty justifiable explanation for anyone who goes at "unlimited genocide on the first world": it's a joke.
I guess I'm just confused about what your concern is. Like someone who would otherwise be a great fit here is going to wander into Hexbear, see something like:
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And they're gonna go, "Oh my heavens! Genocide?!" and run off without asking any sort of clarifying questions about our beliefs or how serious the meme is?
This just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining, frankly.
A lot of "unlimited genocide" comments aren't obviously joking. Many are made in the same style as earnest "death to America" comments, there's a whole contingent of basically ultras who (being generous) are not interested in splitting hairs over when violence is justified, and of course you have the problem seen on every internet forum that makes edgy jokes: some people take them seriously, or at least say they do to be even more edgy.
Also, "it's a joke" is not a bulletproof defense. People have brought up sexual assault jokes -- those and many other types of jokes are "just jokes," but for various reasons we don't tolerate them. Even obvious joke comments like the picture you posted can still be tasteless, offensive, etc.
You have a point mayocide would actually improve things so it isn't 100% a joke. Like, I'd be sad to go but it would be a fair price to pay to bring about the revolution worldwide.
Is there really a large contingent of people who draw their line between "Death to America," and, "Unlimited genocide of the first world
?" I've never encountered such a person until today.
"Death to America" pops up in the real world occasionally, "unlimited genocide" is entirely online from what I know. Stuff that's edgy and exclusively online should be closely scrutinized.
There's also a pretty justifiable explanation for anyone who goes
at "death to America": it's a call for the U.S. empire to be defeated; it's referring to the state, not the people. It's the same thing as saying Israel doesn't have a right to exist -- there's a clear line between talking about state governments vs. the whole population.
Genocide, on the other hand, can't credibly be read as "oh I'm not talking about the people, just the state."
There's also a pretty justifiable explanation for anyone who goes
at "unlimited genocide on the first world": it's a joke.
I guess I'm just confused about what your concern is. Like someone who would otherwise be a great fit here is going to wander into Hexbear, see something like:
And they're gonna go, "Oh my heavens! Genocide?!" and run off without asking any sort of clarifying questions about our beliefs or how serious the meme is?
This just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining, frankly.
Two things:
A lot of "unlimited genocide" comments aren't obviously joking. Many are made in the same style as earnest "death to America" comments, there's a whole contingent of basically ultras who (being generous) are not interested in splitting hairs over when violence is justified, and of course you have the problem seen on every internet forum that makes edgy jokes: some people take them seriously, or at least say they do to be even more edgy.
Also, "it's a joke" is not a bulletproof defense. People have brought up sexual assault jokes -- those and many other types of jokes are "just jokes," but for various reasons we don't tolerate them. Even obvious joke comments like the picture you posted can still be tasteless, offensive, etc.
And people (like myself) have explained why they're not at all comparable.
You have a point mayocide would actually improve things so it isn't 100% a joke. Like, I'd be sad to go but it would be a fair price to pay to bring about the revolution worldwide.
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