I got rejected just last week for something pretty inexpensive that I can afford to pay off in installments. My credit score is good and I've never defaulted on any payments before. I live in the UK, not in China.
AFAIK the social credit system that westerners like to mock was only trialled and never implemented. I, on the other hand, have actually been screwed over by my own country's credit score system.
In the US, I think you would be entitled by law to know the reason why you were rejected ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Credit_Opportunity_Act ).
Does the UK have something similar?
In evil totalitarian China, you can be banned from buying high speed rail tickets if you default on your loans.
In good democratic freedom America, you can be denied all forms of air travel because your name happens to resemble one that's on a secret list.
It's not the 735 thats the problem it's the 5k a month mortgage
Don't forget the minimum 20% down payment if you don't want to get your booty destroyed with interest.
It's enough but you've gotta be ready to pay for a $1 million small bungalow, so $200k up front and a $4k/month mortgage.
We tried personally evaluating people for loans on their individual merits, and shocker, there was rampant racism and sexism. Having strict metrics, instead of relying on the whims of a dickwad loan agent, is a good thing.
The new system isn't perfect, and yeah, it completely favors people who have parents who know how the system works. But at least it's not explicitly racist or sexist (again, there are of course systemic issues that feed into it).
I get that it's frustrating to, for example, need to have debt in order to qualify for more debt. But in other contexts this is pretty standard --- it's essentially "financial experience."
But yeah. It sucks that you should pay expenses with a credit card rather than debit in the USA. Personally it doesn't matter to me (I pay them off every month), but it sucks for merchants who get stuck with the credit card transaction fees.
China's Orwellian Social Credit Score Isn't Real
Edit: I can't respond to replies from the deeply unserious users of the cowardly instances that have defederated from HB, nor those instances so filled with liberalism and foolishness (but I repeat myself) that we had no choice but to defederate from them. Go read a book.
with the amount of information sharing between all the large corps, they are likely to be more similar than you think.
But does the corporate data collection factor into your FICO score? Unless there's some new scary development I'm not aware of, the FICO score is only based on the following: length and number of accounts, revolving utilization, if payments are on time, and the loans you have made (based on the size and frequency of them).
FICO is just one of a multitude of scoring systems which impact people's lives in the US today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_credit_scoring_systems_in_the_United_States
You and your friends' social media activity, among numerous other things, can absolutely affect your ability to get a loan, a job, a rental contract, etc.
If that holds true, then it really is no better than China's social credit system. Somebody needs to regulate this monster before it eats us all.
If you know so little about your own country's credit scoring system, you shouldn't speak so confidently about one on the other side of the world.
Another key difference is one is aimed at executives and businesses and the other is aimed at everyone
Does anyone not how to a Bookwyrme review through a Lemmy link ? Anyway : https://books.theunseen.city/book/192913/s/weapons-of-math-destruction
Excellent. And i could copy entier chapiters under this post and still be relevant.
