I have it heavily modded and I'm struggling to keep playing tbh
It's not just the terrible gameplay (how the fuck did the core game not have ammo crafting???) which mods can absolutely fix. It's the bland and nearly empty environment, the boring and lifeless NPCs, the absolutely dogshit writing. I hear both Nuka World and Far Harbor are better. I'll grind enough to beat the main quest as quickly as possible and then move on to those
Far Harbor has excellent atmosphere and environments, and that's pretty much it. I still don't like the writing and the player agency is lacking as usual IMO. Nuka World is just bad unless you want to be cacklingly cartoonishly evil, and it's not great even then.
Warning on Nuka-World, if you don(k go along with the raiders there is nearly 0 plot content. There's no not-raiders story. You can turn on them in the final quest but up until then you have to play ball. I was not thrilled by this.
Far Harbor is almost cruel, it's the closest Bethesda have ever gotten to delivering stellar Fallout content. Genuienly fun and interesting despite the mechanics of the base game infecting it.
unless you're talking about lack of interactable npcs I'm surprised you feel the environment is empty. i always found it pretty dense especially in boston itself.
Sure there's dozens of little dungeons to go into and scrounge for shit, but the only two actual towns are Diamond City and Goodneighbor. Everything else is just shooting raiders, ferals, super mutants, synths, etc. You can't make any real choices or change much apart from the incredibly shallow settlement building bullshit, which I guess is supposed to replace the towns they decided to just not put in the game
Yeah what I mean is that all the scenery starts to look the same and fighting super mutants/synths/raiders/gunners/BoS/Railroad/Minutemen is all pretty samey, and all for samey rewards and through samey quests where everything is disconnected from everything else in a pretty boring way
I've got my survival game set up so staying alive is actually kinda difficult, which makes the fighting and looting much more engaging. it's the only way to play fo4 IMO
Yeah the thing is the survival mode was broken for me. I'd eat food and drink water and my hunger and thirst wouldn't change. Eventually I just turned off survival mode because I realized I didn't care.
The thing with Fallout 4 is that it actually is "skyrim with guns". Every single part of that game is designed to get you into the lootshooter loop, an endless grind with no clear goal. It then also pretends to be an RPG but is so shit at it that it completely ruins it. There's really no reason not to just play Fallout 76 instead.
i love Fallout 76's map and some of the wastelanders content is actually really good but the live service trappings are so bleh. I wish there was an offline singleplayer version with all that stripped out
I actually enjoy the looting and shooting part. Going into different places infested with enemies, finding stuff to take back to the settlement (which I'll admit does need to be fixed badly) to build more stuff.
I like the RPG parts of it too, I think they need to give better dialogue options and maybe implement a system where people treat you differently depending on what actions or factions you're a part of, but otherwise it's fine to me, I never understood why people hate it so much.
It's actually a really fun and great game if not for the crashes cause of the bad engine. I'd like to get a definitive version or something that uses another engine entirely so stuff like the Triangle of Death no longer becomes a problem. There are much bigger games with bigger maps that never have this issue.
I have it heavily modded and I'm struggling to keep playing tbh
It's not just the terrible gameplay (how the fuck did the core game not have ammo crafting???) which mods can absolutely fix. It's the bland and nearly empty environment, the boring and lifeless NPCs, the absolutely dogshit writing. I hear both Nuka World and Far Harbor are better. I'll grind enough to beat the main quest as quickly as possible and then move on to those
Far Harbor has excellent atmosphere and environments, and that's pretty much it. I still don't like the writing and the player agency is lacking as usual IMO. Nuka World is just bad unless you want to be cacklingly cartoonishly evil, and it's not great even then.
Also, Far Harbor managed to convince a lot players that you play as a Synth
It could have been done, but your character reacts to the question of "Do you remember anything from before you were frozen" like they were the player
Which I think only speaks to the "Blade Runner, but bad" theme of the game
"I remember Emil Pagliarulo being a fucking hack fraud who needs his keyboard taken away"
I remember... The Alamo
TO HELL WITH THE ALIMO
REMBER PERL HORBER
Remember the Maine!!!!!
i remember there was a really cool bike in the basement for a while
YESWhen I found out skyrim's plot was like a biblical allegory or something, damn that shit sucks.
Warning on Nuka-World, if you don(k go along with the raiders there is nearly 0 plot content. There's no not-raiders story. You can turn on them in the final quest but up until then you have to play ball. I was not thrilled by this.
Your choices matter
I'll probably just fucking skip it then
Far Harbor is almost cruel, it's the closest Bethesda have ever gotten to delivering stellar Fallout content. Genuienly fun and interesting despite the mechanics of the base game infecting it.
unless you're talking about lack of interactable npcs I'm surprised you feel the environment is empty. i always found it pretty dense especially in boston itself.
Empty of meaningful things to do
Sure there's dozens of little dungeons to go into and scrounge for shit, but the only two actual towns are Diamond City and Goodneighbor. Everything else is just shooting raiders, ferals, super mutants, synths, etc. You can't make any real choices or change much apart from the incredibly shallow settlement building bullshit, which I guess is supposed to replace the towns they decided to just not put in the game
To each their own
I fucking LOVE FO4 exactly because of that
If I wanted a cringe grimdark backstory on every house cat in the game I'd play Divinity Original Sin 2 (good game, you should play it)
Yeah what I mean is that all the scenery starts to look the same and fighting super mutants/synths/raiders/gunners/BoS/Railroad/Minutemen is all pretty samey, and all for samey rewards and through samey quests where everything is disconnected from everything else in a pretty boring way
I've got my survival game set up so staying alive is actually kinda difficult, which makes the fighting and looting much more engaging. it's the only way to play fo4 IMO
Yeah the thing is the survival mode was broken for me. I'd eat food and drink water and my hunger and thirst wouldn't change. Eventually I just turned off survival mode because I realized I didn't care.
weird, don't think i've ever seen that before
I looked into it and as far as I could tell it wasn't a bug with Horizon, it was a bug with Fallout 4 itself lmao
The thing with Fallout 4 is that it actually is "skyrim with guns". Every single part of that game is designed to get you into the lootshooter loop, an endless grind with no clear goal. It then also pretends to be an RPG but is so shit at it that it completely ruins it. There's really no reason not to just play Fallout 76 instead.
i love Fallout 76's map and some of the wastelanders content is actually really good but the live service trappings are so bleh. I wish there was an offline singleplayer version with all that stripped out
I actually enjoy the looting and shooting part. Going into different places infested with enemies, finding stuff to take back to the settlement (which I'll admit does need to be fixed badly) to build more stuff.
I like the RPG parts of it too, I think they need to give better dialogue options and maybe implement a system where people treat you differently depending on what actions or factions you're a part of, but otherwise it's fine to me, I never understood why people hate it so much.
It's actually a really fun and great game if not for the crashes cause of the bad engine. I'd like to get a definitive version or something that uses another engine entirely so stuff like the Triangle of Death no longer becomes a problem. There are much bigger games with bigger maps that never have this issue.